Posted on 07/06/2019 8:58:18 AM PDT by Kaslin
A solar panel cannot hurt a bird unless they ram into it at speed.
" Workers at a state-of-the-art solar plant in the Mojave Desert have a name for birds that fly through the plant's concentrated sun rays "streamers," for the smoke plume from birds that ignite in midair. "LATIMES--- This Mojave Desert solar plant kills 6,000 birds a year. Here's why that won't change any time soonSCIENCEALERT---This Solar Plant Accidentally Incinerates Up to 6,000 Birds a Year
YOUTUBE --- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLXQN_lURk
Shall we now address the multitude 'kills'of federally protected birds by wind turbines???
Veejay [*snicker*] lacks knowledge about the technology. And no, PV solar modules will not fry birds. I’ve cleaned active modules with window cleaner many times.
That said, a solar power plant needs to be sized and installed properly with good components. And without a climate with many sun-days, the energy will be more expensive to install and maintain. Such power is great for an experienced installer knowledgeable in safe electrical work but more expensive for most people, who would need to pay for safe commercial installations.
From a poster on the bird kill youtube -—— This type of solar facility is an old technology, that is no longer really being built. Photovoltaic plants (sunlight directly to energy) don’t have the extreme temperature problems that concentrated solar thermal plants do.
Solar panels and the technology has improved tremendously since the initial types 40 or more years ago. Beware of all the misinformation posted on FR about solar.
Well, there were too many of the feathery little noisemakers, anyway! /sarc
Form the second link: The plant installed a large fence to keep out endangered desert tortoises, but the knock-on effect is that this has made it way easier for coyotes to kill roadrunners.
Its about time Coyote got a break. I always felt bad for him, never catching that annoying roadrunner. Poor guy.
Anyway, thank you for the links. My impression of green energy is that it is inefficient and deadly to wildlife. Im the kind of person who chases snakes out of the road so they dont get squished. Gotta protect the critters!
That bird killing plant was built in 2014, so it is hardly old technology. The YouTube commenter was just plain wrong.
I also recall reading where the photovoltaic cells also cause bird death. Birds mistake them for water and try to land, then the high heat gets them. Ill have to try to find that reference again.
They left out the one word that explains it: China.
Different technology. Nothing to do with solar panels. It is a solar collector which uses mirrors to reflect sunlight to a tower. And it kills a lot of birds.
Buy a generator.
I have 3 gens for backup.
Heck...
Beware of all the misinformation posted on FR about ANYTHING!
But; most of all...
Beware of all the misinformation posted anywhere on anything!!
The WORST that could happen is their little tootsies get a hot foot!
(But they learn. That’s why you hardly ever find a bird footprint on a black car at midday in the middle of August in the Mojave.)
I’ll take a guess and say that at least one of them automatically fires up at a loss of grid power.
No, I ain’t that fancy. I have to throw switches like you do. Batteries first, then if a couple of overcast days happen, I plug in the gen.
True enough there.
Butt, butt, butt........ Lucky for me I have plenty of grains of salt available. :-) It really boils down to what each one of us accepts as believable or not. I’m a die hard skeptic and I still fall for things on occasion.
“If you call it green it cant be the last inch green, it must be the whole mile green.”
I think the whole wind and solar energy scam should be sent to THE GREEN MILE!
“I just bought a set of lunar panels from a nice Nigerian company. Should be arriving any day now.”
Is the company represented by a nice “Barrister”? Why did you have to buy panels? I thought they would have been awarded to you free along with six million dollars as mine were. I am still waiting for my money and my panels but I only had to forward ten thousand dollars to cover upfront costs. They are also supposed to send me an automatic daylight cover to prevent damage to the lunar panels by sunlight, that costs an additional five hundred. I asked them if they could just deduct the ten thousand five hundred from my six million but banking regulations would not permit that. Oh, well the money should be here soon and I can pay off all three mortgages, including the one for the ten five.
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