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To: CarolinaReaganFan

We all know Debka can be a shaky source but this is what they are saying:

Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight
Jul 2, 2019 @ 22:24 Diane Shalem

First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement and headed for the Kremlin to confer with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs, after learning that 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.” This account carried in Russian media varies in most respects from the first reports reaching this site and may refer to a separate incident. They report between 14 and 17 members of an AS-12 nuclear powered submarine died of poisonous fumes caused by a fire aboard the vessel. The submarine was described as experimental and unarmed but often used in spy missions. It is unclear how many of the 25 crew survived. Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries. Another news account said the majority of the officers died in or on their way to hospital. These reports do not cite the cause of the fire.


455 posted on 07/02/2019 12:57:32 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: conservativepoet

There’s been a lot of talk about this submarine and I suppose it’s part of the story.

But I still can’t make the Pence connection.


456 posted on 07/02/2019 1:01:13 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: conservativepoet
"The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. "

Can someone translate this for me. It's a bit confusing.

459 posted on 07/02/2019 1:07:10 PM PDT by devane617 (Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.~ George Orwell, 1984)
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To: conservativepoet

the Onion has more credibility than debka.


473 posted on 07/02/2019 1:16:20 PM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . . .)
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To: conservativepoet
Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk ...

Severomorsk is near Murmansk in the north west of Russia ... not far from Russia's border with northern Norway. Alaska is thousands of miles to the east. If true it has to be two different incidents.

489 posted on 07/02/2019 1:49:40 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: conservativepoet

I briefly enjoyed Debka a number of years ago, until I realized that they were virtually always wrong. I wouldn’t put much stock in a Debka story.


495 posted on 07/02/2019 2:01:46 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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