Men are in trouble. ‘Incels’ are proof.

The Washington Post ^ | June 7, 2019 | Christine Emba

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

The Internet has enabled the flourishing of countless subcultures, from the harmless to the less so. Lately, one of the latter groups has begun to break into the mainstream: the “incels.”

“Incel” is short for “involuntary celibate,” and as their self-imposed name implies, these mostly young men have come to define themselves by their inability to find a sexual or romantic partner. Men who identify as being #ForeverAlone have gathered online in forums such as Reddit to trade stories of woe.

These communities tend to be self-reinforcing. Members believe that their looks or personal traits have consigned them to lifelong loneliness, and similarly downbeat peers are always willing to add more fuel to that fire. And the incel community has developed elaborate, and elaborately misogynistic, theories to blame others for their plight, centered on the idea that women are shallow, stupid and cruel — exclusively choosing only a handful of the most attractive men to be with and disdaining the rest. All men should deserve a chance with women, incels tell themselves, but some men have all the luck, while they get left out.

Today, the incel subculture has become not just self-reinforcing but self-radicalizing, often with tragic outcomes. At its most horrifying extremes, self-described incels have taken their anger out on the women they believe are refusing them. At least two mass shooters have left behind manifestos identifying themselves as adhering to incel ideology and explaining their actions as taking revenge on the world that hasn’t given them the women they think they deserve.

[papertyger]

Such ladies seem in horrible short supply these days. And the number of them grow only smaller.

The dirty little secret is that such women have ALWAYS been in short supply.

The difference today is men don't know the difference between the real product, and what's advertised.

[Rebelbase]

Oh, I need to add psychos, women with daddy issues and the those on SSRIs to my list above.

[Texan5]

I know plenty of macho men who are well-educated-when they have enough money put away to open their own business, it is almost always a construction, excavating, ranch/ranch store, raising livestock, etc-like I have, they ditch the college education as an asset for work-guys who have a higher education but have a country/blue collar soul-that is my perfect match-I found one for the 3d time-just lucky. The guys like that are my friends and co workers-and they are mostly in my age group of 60-70’s-there are younger macho guys out here in the country-but I doubt there are many in cities-probably not many real women, either...

[rollo tomasi]

Is men in plural forum on purpose? What kind of girl are you? J/K



Young women have more freedom to compete for the top 20% and if the men are smart enough to understand this/other motives, just pump and dump because a lot of women have commitment and emotional issues to even trust them nowadays. No hymen, no diamond. Female empowerment comes at a price, smart guys know this, *Incels* are better off not going through that in the end in the first place.

Boys who grown up seeing their dad's get raped in family court does not help either. Tell your girlfriends to admonish riding the male genital carousel, end #metoo, quit referring male competitiors along with criticism as toxic masculinity, refuse hypergamy, eradicate no-fault divorce, and promote how males/females compliment each other then maybe men would trust women again.

[VanDeKoik]

“I have never brought a single legal or financial liability to my man’s table”

This isnt about you individualy. I’m more than sure many females are not like that. This is a wider issue of outdated cultural and legal edicts that are used by women, left and right, that have emptied men’s wallets, and left many on the streets or in jail. Many have taken their lives because of it. Men are now even legally banned from knowing if their recently birth child is actually theirs! Some still are on the hook even when it is found out the mother lied.

100 years of this stuff is finally catching up with the west. The numbers are just not there anymore, so here comes the fall. The real cowboys are riding off into the sunset. Good luck!

[dfwgator]

50 years ago, odds are you weren’t going to move from where you were born, so the pickings for potential mates was limited, basically as soon as you found somebody “good enough”, you knew to get married, or else you might not find anything better.

Fast forward to today, Online dating, mobility create the illusion of “many fish in the sea”, so if someone isn’t “perfect”, no big, it’s easy enough to find someone who is.

Of course, life doesn’t work that way, and people find that out too late.

[VanDeKoik]

“Mighty masculine of you. ROFLMBO. “

Your whole reply was just reading back what I said.....and then not even attempting to show where I was wrong.

And then use some childish attempt at “shaming”? Ok.

And you wonder why marriage and birth rates have collasped?

[Nothingburger]

Well argued.

[Texan5]

A woman who can be an equal partner with a man-not a whiny delicate flower that needs protecting, nor a closet dominatrix/feminazi who wants to have a man obey and follow her-a real partne-one who has his back, just as he has hers. A partner who enjoys working with her man on projects of mutual interests, but is not jealous of him having time to himself. A real woman is not always demanding money or stuff and threatening to burn her man down in court when she doesn’t get her way-a real woman does not use sex as a weapon to get her way and is not dishonest in her compliments. Basically, a real woman is an emotionally healthy adult female...

[skimbell]

[papertyger]

That just doesn’t make sense. What you describe as a “real woman” is as rare as unicorns. Even your own assessment up thread is at odds with what you describe.

How can the vast majority not be “real?”

[Texan5]

There are a lot of actual cowboys, oil patch workers and long haul truck drivers out here of all ages-we even have several farriers and blacksmiths-they are never short of work-there really are more guys needed in the skilled trades-pres Trump is right...

[BusterDog]

I guess we need a federal program to provide all the incels with prostitutes.

[papertyger]

This is a wider issue of outdated cultural and legal edicts that are used by women, left and right, that have emptied men’s wallets, and left many on the streets or in jail.

This is why I've always said the only difference between pro-life women, and pro-choice women is their view on abortion.

[MrEdd]

That won’t work either.
I spent eight years working with an organization helping people get out of the sex industry.

Something about a lot of the incels feels just as much off to prostitutes. You would only be able to hire serious addicts who were barely aware of their surroundings, and then the incels would complain even more.

[Sicon]

I have some tips for the “incels”...

1. Get a job
2. Stop drinking soy milk
3. Get some exercise
4. Shave that racoon’s ass-hair off your fat face
5. Do something interesting (in other words, something besides playing xBox and tweeting/snapchatting)
6. Abandon liberalism/SJW crusading
7. Be a man! If you’re not sure what that means or how to do it, there are actually books on the subject (just make sure the author isn’t a feminist).

Bonus: Move out of your parent’s house

[Texan5]

There are still real men being brought up by good working class parents out here-homeschooled mostly-but some go to the small local Christian school, too-girls are being brought up to be decent, honest hard working women out here, too-but this is a rural area-so most of these young people marry someone in this area or another rural community-they rarely even date city people-and more than 1/2 of our young guys are sons of veterans and join the military-so they may find a woman in the outside world, if they are not already committed to a local girl.

I have not lived in the city for many years so I have no idea if any real men and women are being brought up there-but I doubt it is many, since the toxic social influences are much more prevalent there-it is why many of my neighbors are living here and not in a city...

[Texan5]

The vast majority are not what the men I know call “real women”-or what my mom taught me was real-but everyone is entitled to their own opinion of real when it comes to a woman, man or anything else, for that matter-the main point I was addressing is that real women ARE as rare as unicorns...

[IronJack]

Look. For every nut, there's a bolt. If some androgynous ganja-champ like Bronc O'Bama can get a boyfriend, anyone can. So "incel" just means "too wimpy to make a move."

That beta cucks like that are celibate is just the gene pool cleaning itself.

[polymuser]

“I guess we need a federal program to provide all the incels with prostitutes.”

I suspect a Stepford Wife will be their ultimate solution. Getting closer on the technology. For a fraction of half a man’s wealth...with Pandora in stereo, beer cooler and endless compliments.

And it could collect his sperm for donation to wannabe baby mommies. Twofer.

Ahh, the success of feminism...