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To: Starboard

You can try to keep it real, but the reality is the Deep State has been in power for the last 50 years. Thinking this will be fixed quickly betrays an ignorance of how things work inside-the-beltway.


30 posted on 05/23/2019 9:07:23 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (AOC: The brain of a tea bisquit)
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To: COBOL2Java

+2


31 posted on 05/23/2019 9:08:47 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: COBOL2Java

See my #14. I’m well aware of the complexity of the problems that Barr/Durham face in unraveling this mess. But if some of it is not exposed/fixed within Trump’s first term it may never be fixed.


33 posted on 05/23/2019 9:35:20 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: COBOL2Java
The Deep State has been in power for the last 50 years.

You're off by a factor of two, maybe even three. 50 years only puts us at 1969 - 6 years after JFK. At a very minimum, the DS dates back 106 years to 1913 with the creation of the Fed & income tax.

Just 4 short years later, the USA is engaged in WWI; what a convoluted rationale that was. Of course, fed.gov could never tell the general population that our major (Fed Reserve) banks were all exposed due to Allied loans. If the Germans were to win - and they were winning handily - the USA would have essentially been dragged along in bankruptcy.

Now, if we want to really trace back the creation of a consolidated federal government which is essential to creating the foundation for a deep, entrenched state, look no further than 1861. But, no reason to go there since it's so wrought with emotional baggage.

Suffice it to say that conservatives are really no different than the "useful idiots" of the left. There's this deeply ingrained belief that somehow the great mass of people are actually in control of their own destiny. That the consent of the governed is essential to self determination, or that competition of ideas can effect change.

LOL. The only real truth is that you can't keep what you can't hold. If patriots are unwilling or unable to keep "their country", then it will be taken from them - by force. I'm still waiting for the day Trump has his Lincoln moment, when he realizes the enemy will never negotiate or act in good faith. Their end goal is to win: full stop.period.the end.

36 posted on 05/23/2019 9:54:48 AM PDT by semantic
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