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Investment Is Needed To Shore Up U.S. Agriculture
Townhall.com ^ | Mayu 12, 2019 | Steve Sherman

Posted on 05/12/2019 5:29:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Klemper

Iowa is as liberal as CA but they have that magical, unconstitutional early voting. So, i would be willing to throw tax dollars at iowa if they are willing to give up their political power.


21 posted on 05/12/2019 6:22:51 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: Kaslin

It used to be important to this country to have a 3 year reserve. Now if we don’t use the last bushel of old crop the same day the new crop comes in, we screwed up.

Food security used to be important, now we worry if there are enough butt plugs...………………...


22 posted on 05/12/2019 6:30:30 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin

Like Big Trucking, Big Farming can only exist pumped up on the backs of subsidies and regulations.

The U.S. Chamber of Socialist Commerce wants their Big Regulations.


23 posted on 05/12/2019 6:42:04 AM PDT by TheNext (Democrats kill people with Gun Control)
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To: PapaBear3625

Estate taxes cause small family farms to have to be sold to pay death taxes.


STOP repeating that lie. It has been solved several times with tax legislation.

The reason it is sold is the heirs want the money, not the farm. The EXCUSE is death taxes.


24 posted on 05/12/2019 6:46:10 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin
By "investment" does he mean government subsidies. Here in the swamp they use the word "invest" to mean squander money on something that is failing. If it is failing so badly that no private investor will support it then it is "high risk" just the sort of thing the government "should" be spending its money on.

We all know what an investment really is - it's a capital acquisition that has a reasonable probability of providing a periodic return so as to repay the investment with interest, you know, like putting money into a property that you can rent or building a house you can sell or acquiring a machine tool to make parts that can be sold at market prices to recoup the cost of the machine and pay the labor and material expenses involved.

A piece of fallow land is not an investment - it's speculation. A government "investment" is even worse. It's not even good speculation.

25 posted on 05/12/2019 6:51:51 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: central_va

What advantage do we get from a strong military budget? We spend billions upon billions, nay, trillions...just in case. We spend huge amounts on weapons and bombs that, God-willing, we will never use but I would never argue against a strong military.

And yet...what is more important to the defense of our country than food security. Cut off the supply lines and you can defeat your enemies.

In time of war would you trust a foreign country to feed the USA? I wouldn’t.

I don’t know about you but I can live a long, full life w/o a toaster oven, the same can’t be said about food.


26 posted on 05/12/2019 7:03:11 AM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
Factories to make our weapons of war are MORE important than anything grown. Have you ever read a history book? I do not know how to politley fight this level of ignorance.

You can plant a seed and have grain in 3 months. You cannot build a tank factory in 3 months and fight a war at the same time.

27 posted on 05/12/2019 7:08:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

At the same time, precision agriculture is expected to reduce herbicide consumption by as much as 90 percent, curbing the number of harmful contaminants the Earth is subjected to and optimizing crop growth in one fell swoop. Simply put, technology has the potential to be a no-brainer cure-all for all the industry’s ills.


Sounds good to the ears, doesn’t it? 90%? Technology has potential……………………………….

Just like global warming, the sun has more to do with agriculture that man. We have had some good production years but that may be changing. Not that technology isn’t important.

I worked with farmers for many years. The management target was maximum yield NOT maximin profit. There is a difference.

Precision farming? yes, nice graphs and pictures but then the rate of fertilizer is for the max yield which is only 1 in ten. If one part of the field looked poorly it is because your precision fertilizer and herbicide application caused it. So...……………………… human psychology says max rates on the whole farm so there is no blame. BUT AGAIN, NICE COLOR GRAPHS.

My observation. Technology added a cost with no return. But again, profit was not the goal.

What determines the herbicide application rate? The recommended rate on the package, else the warrantee is not any good. Not that the warrantee is of much value anyway.

The only management decision farmers make anymore is what color paint is on the machinery.

Agriculture is still the most pure capitalism we have in the USA, even with all the government and large business “help”. We can all complain with our mouth full.


28 posted on 05/12/2019 7:15:12 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin

The government is not the answer.

If they are corporate farms, it’s up to the corporations to come up with the capital.


29 posted on 05/12/2019 7:18:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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To: central_va
<>"I like to point out hypocrisy when ever I see it."<>

And, like pornography, you know it when you see it.

The worst form of heart disease is having a bitter one.

30 posted on 05/12/2019 7:21:32 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The Elite: Too stupid to know when to quit stealing!)
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To: Kaslin

“...the country’s farming sector now finds itself suffering from insufficient governmental investment.”

The more the government is involved the more you will suffer.


31 posted on 05/12/2019 7:22:27 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: tiki

.what is more important to the defense of our country than food security.


Very few understand that. That was the initial and only goal of the USDA when started but it has had mission creep.

The 3 year reserve was one of the few government programs that made sense, yet no one liked it, and I mean no one.


32 posted on 05/12/2019 7:22:38 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Vermont Lt

The government is not the answer.


That sounds good and is a simple response that I have said.

Now, name me one part of the economy where the government ISN’T. It is part of the equation that has to be dealt with in all aspects of our life.

Now regarding agriculture, the amazing thing is not that it is all screwed up, THE AMAZING THING IS THAT IT WORKS AT ALL.


33 posted on 05/12/2019 7:30:07 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PapaBear3625

The guy is simply lying about Iowa. The ‘corporations’ he claims are taking over are simply the same family farmers incorporating to escape taxes, especially estate taxes.

Giant corporations own a tiny percent of farmland.

Family farms incorporating themselves has led to the situation where only a handful of Iowa family farms pay estate taxes.

This guy is nuts if he thinks there’s not enough farm investment. Modern ag of any kind is extremely capital intensive and anyone with land or an ag management background can get what they need now.


34 posted on 05/12/2019 7:33:18 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: central_va

Tractor monkeys need to compete ...
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US companies that produce tractors are putting themselves out of business by building tractors NOBODY wants ,, they’re loaded with electronics that are only accessible by the factory tools... it costs thousands of dollars in diagnostics by a factory dealership to diagnose a bad $0.05 pin in a wiring harness ... That’s why turd world tractor producers are selling so many tractors here ,,, their machines can be fixed by the owners easily.


35 posted on 05/12/2019 7:36:48 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: 9YearLurker

True - but by the same token, as Charlie Daniels put in a song, “If the man don’t work, the People don’t eat.”


36 posted on 05/12/2019 7:58:16 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Vermont Lt

The government is not the answer.

If they are corporate farms, it’s up to the corporations to come up with the capital.

Thanks for posting this.

We have a friend, who like us is either 80 or pushing 80.

He still works 3 days a week selling incredible and modern farm equipment.

One of the products he sells is a heavy duty brush remover and plower of the land. In one day a 3 man crew can remove more brush and plow more land than crews of a dozen illegals can remove in a couple of weeks.

His territory is Oregone, Arizona and California.

His biggest competition is the do gooders providing tax payer housing, medical care, schooling to the illegals and their families.

The past two years, a lot of that taxpayer funding is drying up, and the farmers and ranchers are lining up to buy or lease his equipment or competitors.

Of course the public schools and those giving our tax $’s to the illegals are still his biggest covert competitors.


37 posted on 05/12/2019 7:59:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( You can't normalize the type of behavior the left is trying to normalize, when, it isn't normal!)
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To: trebb
True - but by the same token, as Charlie Daniels put in a song, “If the man don’t work, the People don’t eat import.”

Fixed it.

38 posted on 05/12/2019 8:00:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Wait. Someone is arguong that Agribusiness doesn’t get enough govt subsidies?


39 posted on 05/12/2019 8:02:01 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: jjotto

You are correct! Even families are combining farms while incorporating to maximize profits as well.


40 posted on 05/12/2019 8:08:08 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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