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To: libstripper

The 4th of July celebration has, from the day it started, been a nonpartisan celebration of the country. No president has ever participated in or made a speech at the proceedings. If Trump turns this into a campaign rally then it will come back to bite him. Hold a rally somewhere else in the country on the 4th - Mt. Rushmore or Liberty Hall or Battery Park in New York with the Statue of Liberty in the background. His base will love him and he’ll attract more attention than the fireworks on the Mall will.


6 posted on 05/11/2019 6:07:52 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

No president has ever participated in or made a speech at the proceedings.

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No president has ever had the Federal security apparatus conspire with the opposition party to attempt to frame and remove a president.


15 posted on 05/11/2019 6:28:47 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: DoodleDawg

No democrat can ever do a campaign rally like Trump. It won’t come back an bite him.


25 posted on 05/11/2019 6:49:41 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: DoodleDawg

You sir know nothing about American History.

Go read old newspaper account on July 4th celebration. The celebration almost always included political and patriotic speeches.

There were also parades which included veterans of our wars.

The American flag would be flown by all.

So if President Trump wants to give a political speech, he should do so.

If the left’s collected head explodes, well that is just a bonus.


26 posted on 05/11/2019 6:49:55 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Reminding/teaching Americans the reason for INDEPENDENCE DAY is NOT political...unless you’re a Democrat!


33 posted on 05/11/2019 7:09:18 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: DoodleDawg

The 4th of July celebration has, from the day it started, been a nonpartisan celebration of the country.


What history books do you read? It has always been political!


38 posted on 05/11/2019 7:17:20 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: DoodleDawg
What did the presidents do on July Fourth?

1791 - President Washington celebrates in Lancaster Pennsylvania with an address, fine cuisine, and walking about town.

1793 - President Washington is in residence at Mt. Vernon and attend festivities in Alexandria, VA.

1795 - President Washington goes to Philadelphia.

1798 - President Adams is in Philadelphia where he reviews military parade with a reception later in the afternoon for guests.

1799 - President Adams attends an oration by John Lowell, Jr. at the old South Meeting House in Boston.

1801 - President Jefferson presides over the first Fourth of July public reception at the White House with many others following during his two terms.

1809 - President Madison opens the White House to various “Heads of Departments.”

1812 - Madison is at the Capitol for a ceremony, and then reviews a military parade before entertaining guests a the White house.

1815 - President Madison goes to the Capitol and then hosts a reception at Octagon House.

1821 - President Monroe is ill and the Executive Mansion closed.

1822 - President Monroe observed the holiday at his farm in VA.

1825 - President John Q. Adams listens to the Marine Band perform at the White House before reviewing volunteer companies. At the Capitol, he listens to a reading of the Declaration of Independence followed by a White House reception.

1826 - President John Q. Adams is accompanied by the Vice President to the Capitol in a procession. Later, there is a White House reception. The Presidents father and former President Jefferson die on the 50th Anniversary of the Declaration.

1829 - President Jackson holds two public White House receptions.

1830 - President Jackson travels to the Hermitage with his arrival expected on July 6 in Tennessee.

1839 - President Van Buren is in New York at a festival and then a sabbath school observance with thousands of children.

1842 - President Tyler opens the White House to an unusually large number of citizens. That morning, he entertained Sunday schools with two address by the children.

1848 - President Polk has guests at the White House, including former first lady Dolly Madison. Later he witnesses the laying of the cornerstone of the Washington Monument with future President Lincoln in attendance followed by a military parade.

1850 - President Taylor attends a Washington Monument tribute. After returning to the White House he consumes cherries and milk. He falls ill and dies on July 9.

1855 - President Pierce and the first lady took a beach vacation at Cape May, New Jersey.

1861 - President Lincoln reviews Twenty nine New York Militia regiments on the White House lawn. He raises a flag at the Treasury Department.

1863 - President Lincoln releases an address remembering “the many gallant fallen” and honors the Army of the Potomac. With the confederate surrender at Vicksburg Mississippi, the President delivers a “Fourth of July” speech on July 7 from a second floor window of the White House to an “immense” crowd.

1868 - President Johnson executes a Third Amnesty Proclamation that exonerates all who participated in the Confederate Rebellion.

1872 - President Grant is vacationing at Long Beach, New Jersey with a joyful backdrop of cannon fire, bell ringing, and a fireworks display.

1881 - This is one of the grimmest of July Fourths given that President Garfield was hit two days earlier by an assassin's bullet. The nation is uncharacteristically subdued on the holiday.

1891 - President Harrison vacations in Cape May, New Jersey.

1902 - President Theodore Roosevelt travels to Schenley Park, Pittsburgh where he speaks before 200,000 people.

1906 - President Theodore Roosevelt is at the “summer White House” in Oyster Bay, New York where he speaks from the home’s piazza using a Lincoln text.

1909 - President Taft is in residence at the new “summer White House” in Beverly, MA. He attends church on Sunday, July 4th. On the 5th, he observes the 250th anniversary of Norwich, Connecticut with a military parade and a public reception.

1902 - President Theodore Roosevelt travels to Schenley Park, Pittsburgh where he speaks before 200,000 people. See what this event was like on the Library of Congress website.

1906 - President Theodore Roosevelt is at the “summer White House” in Oyster Bay, New York where he speaks from the home’s piazza using a Lincoln text.

1909 - President Taft is in residence at the new “summer White House” in Beverly, MA. He attends church on Sunday, July 4th. On the 5th, he observes the 250th anniversary of Norwich, Connecticut with a military parade and a public reception.

1913 - President Wilson travels to Gettysburg, PA for a Fourth of July battle reunion speech.

1914 - President Wilson is at Independence Hall in Philadelphia where he interprets the meaning of the Declaration and speaks the memorable line, “Our country, right or wrong.”

1918 - President Wilson speaks at an “International Fourth of July Celebration” at Mount Vernon, VA. Back in Washington DC, he is in the audience for a pageant at the Capitol that is entitled “Democracy Triumphant.”

1926 - President Coolidge is in southern New Jersey for the opening of the Delaware River bridge. He plants a willow tree similar to the one at George Washington's grave on the 150th anniversary of the Declaration. The net day, he speaks a the Philadelphia Sesquicentennial Exposition.

1928 - President Coolidge enjoys time trout fishing in Superior, Wisconsin.

1930 - President Hoover is vacationiong on the Rapidan River in VA with a large contingent of guests.

1934 - President Roosevelt spends the holiday in the Bahamas.

1936 - President Roosevelt travels to Monticello to give a eulogy in honor of Jefferson.

1937 - President Roosevelt goes to a church fair, and on the Fourth attends church with a picnic at his Val-Kill farm for the White House staff and the press.

1946 - President President Truman retreats to Roosevelt’s Shangri-La in Maryland’s Catoctin Mountains.

1947 - President Truman travels to Monticello. He lays a wreath on Jefferson’s tomb.

1951 - President Truman is at the Washington Monument grounds speaking at the 175th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

1953 - President Eisenhower is at Camp David. He plays golf at a nearby course.

1954 - President Eisenhower is at Camp David.

1956 - President Eisenhower is in residence at this Gettysburg farm.

1957 - President Eisenhower plays golf.

1961 - President Kennedy is at Hyannis Port, MA for sailing and fireworks.

1964 - President Johnson is at his ranch in TX.

1965 - President Johnson is at his ranch in TX.

1969 - President Nixon is in Key Biscayne, FL.

1970 - President Nixon is at the Western White House in San Clemente, CA. He meets with Vietnam peace talks representative David K. E. Bruce. Later that evening, the President’s taped July 4th message is played on the National Mall in Washington, DC.

1976 - On the bicentennial anniversary, President Ford travels to Valley Forge, PA. He speaks there and signs legislation that transfers management of the park to the National Park Service. Independence Hall is his next stop for another speech and finally to New York for a review of the tall ships.

1977 - President Carter returns from Camp David and views fireworks from the White House balcony.

1983 - President Reagan is in Santa Barbara, CA at Rancho Cielo.

1989 - President G. H. W. Bush is in Kennebunkport, ME.

1991 - President G. H. W. Bush and first lady Barbara Bush go the Marshfield, MO and Grand Rapids, MI. Parades and speeches mark the day with a return to Washington, DC later for fireworks.

1999 - President Clinton and Mrs. Clinton watch the fireworks from the Truman balcony.

2004 - President G. W. Bush goes to Charleston, WV where he praises US Troops in Iraq and the National Guard.

2008 - President G. W. Bush, like three previous presidents, hosts a naturalization ceremony for 72 US citizens from 30 countries.

2010 - President Obama on the White House south lawn fires up the barbeque pit for 1,200 members of the US Armed Forces.

2017 - President Donald Trump tweeted “Getting ready to celebrate the 4th of July with a big crowd at the White House. Happy 4th to everyone. Our country will grow and prosper!”

42 posted on 05/11/2019 7:38:19 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DoodleDawg
The 4th of July celebration has, from the day it started, been a nonpartisan celebration of the country.

What makes you think it won't be "nonpartisan?" Trump can make a unifying speech reminding us all that we are Americans and should celebrate our heritage. He can welcome our legal immigrants, including his wife.

No president has ever participated in or made a speech at the proceedings.

Simply not so. I provided you a detailed list of how our Presidents celebrated the Fourth of July. They made speeches at the WH, the Capitol, and the Washington Monument.

If Trump turns this into a campaign rally then it will come back to bite him.

Sounds like a Dem talking point. Trump is the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief of our armed forces. I am confident that he will make this a nonpartisan celebration and with his gift of PR and how to produce events for the public, it will be a boffo event perhaps starting its own tradition. We need a leader who unites the country instead of dividing it. Let Trump's critics bash the event or even try to disrupt it. They will be the ones making it political.

44 posted on 05/11/2019 7:59:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DoodleDawg

So says our resident shallow thinker.


46 posted on 05/11/2019 8:27:07 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: DoodleDawg
The 4th of July celebration has, from the day it started, been a nonpartisan celebration of the country. No president has ever participated in or made a speech at the proceedings. If Trump turns this into a campaign rally then it will come back to bite him.

Piff, and double piff. What do you think "will come back to bite him?"

51 posted on 05/11/2019 9:20:25 AM PDT by gogeo (Liberal politics and mental instability; coincidence, correlation, or causation?)
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To: DoodleDawg

Wrong, it’s not a campaign rally.

It’s an event to be honored. Maybe he will read the Declaration of Independence? Do you consider that to be a “Campaign Rally”?

(you do if your a Marxist)


55 posted on 05/11/2019 10:22:21 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: DoodleDawg
The 4th of July celebration has, from the day it started, been a nonpartisan celebration of the country.

Living here in the swamp, back in the day when Clinton was president, I walked down to the mall with wife and son to watch the fireworks. After they started they stopped for a long time and I went home. Then they started again. Apparently the Clintons had organized the fireworks so they would start while the Clintons were partying with their nearest and dearest swamp rats at one place so they could move their party to another place where they could party one with more and better swamp rats.

It ruined 4th of July for many of us. So don't lecture me on "nonpartisan" 4ths.

64 posted on 05/11/2019 1:27:47 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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