I headed over to Wideawakes in the fall of 2007 and stayed there until early 2008. I was one of few Fred supporters there along with RobfromGA.
While Ivan was fair minded, the rest of the forum were rabid Rudy supporters and anti Fred nuts. Luis Gonzalez was the biggest one of them all. He was unbelievably pro Roe v. Wade and he was very full of himself. He used to stalk the few of us there who were Fred supporters. And he was a moderator there, too.
The funning thing is today, we have Rudy doing work for and defending Trump while in retrospect, I think that Fred may have been a stalking horse for McCain.
But Rudy double downed on his support for abortion, and that was his undoing.
I actually didnt mind Ivan