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To: NorseViking

[You have near religious views on both Middle Eastern history and Russia. These are as wrong as any other myths but no logical arguments would fix it.]


I’ve explained my views with a mix of verifiable facts and historical events. No beliefs in the supernatural are necessary. You challenged me on US oil import numbers. I demonstrated that they were even larger than I had expected. The real issue is that you’ve looked at the world from the prism of Russian interests and have at your disposal only the data supporting those interests, whereas I know enough to argue from basically any side’s perspective, including yours, because I used to be a left winger and am familiar with all the old Russophile/pro-Soviet arguments. I used to read publications like Mother Jones, In These Times and The Nation a lot. David Corn, Victor Navasky and Alexander Cockburn used to be some of my favorite columnists. Then I read a little more widely and realized that these people were basically anti-American Russophiles.


29 posted on 05/08/2019 4:09:29 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I am familiar with all the numbers you brought too. Including US oil production and consumption over time.


32 posted on 05/08/2019 4:26:04 AM PDT by NorseViking
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