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To: Moonman62
I've watched and listened to political shows and commentators all evening talking about how the electoral college prevents the big cites from electing the president and the effects if we abolished the EC and not one of them even mention the real issue against the "popular vote" movement on the left.

The real reason we don't count the popular vote is that the people are not electing the President. When you vote in a presidential election you are voting for how you want your state to cast it's vote. It's the states that are electing the President. DJT is the President of the STATES not the people. The function of the EC is to compensate for the states with larger populations. California gets more electoral votes because they have more people. If we eliminate the EC then all the states would get one vote each. Fifty states, fifty votes and the majority wins with a tie break by congress. We would NEVER add all the peoples votes together because we don't have a president of the people. We have a President of the states. It says it right there in the title of the office. President Of The United States not president of the united people.

6 posted on 03/19/2019 9:20:05 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

These idiots have been SCREAMING since Trump won the election about how he is destroying our democracy YET these asshats are the ones trying to uproot EVERYTHING this country has survived on for the past 200+ years!!! 16 year olds voting, flooding the Supreme Court, AND demolishing the Electoral College NOW tell me who in the hell is TRULY trying to demolish our way of government!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!


7 posted on 03/19/2019 9:28:41 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: precisionshootist

Thank you for your explanation. The founders created us as The United STATES of America. They realized that they needed a stronger federal government than existed under the Articles of Confederation, but they still wanted a division of power so that the STATES would have all of the powers that were not delegated to the federal government (Bill of Rights #10). The Electoral College was designed to help protect the power of the individual states.


12 posted on 03/19/2019 10:05:23 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: precisionshootist

+1


16 posted on 03/19/2019 11:36:23 PM PDT by 4Liberty ("The Democrats are the Party of Crime." - Donald J. Trump)
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To: precisionshootist

This has been my argument as well, ever since this nonsense started. I’ve compared the popular vote to yards rushing in a football game.

And to sum up for people regarding the states electing the president I use the EU example. The EU is a sort of model of the US. It is a higher government authority with standardized rules for all of the “mostly” sovereign nations within its umbrella of authority. The people don’t choose the leaders in the EU. The countries within it do. And that makes total sense.

The bottom line is that before the civil war, the US was usually or often referred to as “THESE” united states.

I see every state in the union as its own country, with its culture and rules. But the ties via the federal government include things like no border checkpoints between “countries”, the ability to drive in any state with one state’s license, your “marriage” binding in all states no matter which one it occurred in, and, eventually, the same situation with gun laws - get a CCW in WAshington state and you’re good for New Jersey.

But the states are actually sovereign as long as they don’t violate the Federal Constituion.


19 posted on 03/20/2019 5:25:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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