[DiogenesLamp]

You know that isn't true. The confederates had agents and provocateurs in almost every state and territory agitating for admission to the regime.

Here I agree with you. Of course they wanted more land and more people because from the combination of the two, more power grows.

[FLT-bird]

DiogenesLamp:

Here I agree with you. Of course they wanted more land and more people because from the combination of the two, more power grows.

Some individuals? No doubt. The states as a whole? They made no claim upon any US territories. They didn't start trying to seize any of them until AFTER Lincoln started the war. Once a war was on, of course they then tried to seize some of the Western territories.