[DoodleDawg]

This is funny, because I have previously made the exact same argument regarding Article IV, section 2 of the US Constitution. Unless you prohibit the right to transit (violation of the privileges and immunities clause) you can't keep slavery out of "free" states.

It's hilarious actually because unlike the Confederate Constitution (Article IV, Section 2) nothing in the U.S. Constitution protects the right of the slaveholder to take his/her slaves to any state in the Union. Also unlike the Confederate Constitution (Article I, Section 9), there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that prohibits laws impairing the right of property in slaves. Finally unlike the Confederate Constitution (Article IV, Section 3) nothing in the U.S. Constitution prohibits Congress from banning slavery in the territories. So According to the 10th Amendment, laws about allowing slaves in a particular state would be up to the state itself. And according to Article IV, Section 3 allowing slaves in the territories would be up to Congress. Your premise is wrong.

You get the argument now but only because you can see how it works in the Confederacy. I suspect you will still be unable to see that it works exactly the same way in the Union.

Looks like you suspect wrong.

[DiogenesLamp]

So by all means please tell us how an existing Confederate state could outlaw slavery within its borders or how a non-slave state could be created from any territory the Confederacy acquired.

You assert such, but George Washington begs to differ. I've noticed a bunch of people on your side *CLAIM* something that cannot be read from any text on the Constitution.

Clearly slaves must always be returned to their masters. It says so quite explicitly. Clearly their masters have the right to go into non slave states.

Where does a state get the authority to free slaves? Their own laws cannot do it, because this is expressly prohibited by Article IV, section 2.

So what do they do? They *CLAIM* they have the right to ban slavery in their state, but nothing in the Constitution can be actually understood to mean this thing they claim.

Looks like you suspect wrong.

No, I suspected precisely right. I knew you would try to make up some phoney reason why Article IV, Section 2 doesn't mean what it says, and I knew you would try to pretend this is somehow different from what the Confederate constitution did.

Constitution says they must be returned. How then do you free them? How do you override a constitutional requirement that requires they be returned?

Can't be done through state law. Requires a constitutional amendment.