[rockrr]

We’ve walked this piece of the property so much there’s a trench.

DegenerateLamp wants to impute motives so that he can substantiate his delusion. Unfortunately his imputations too often conflict with the actual history of events. That he obdurately continues after being corrected is a genetic flaw.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

We’ve walked this piece of the property so much there’s a trench.

Which is why I've pretty much stopped visiting these threads. After a dozen years of having pretty much the same arguments with pretty much the same cast of characters, I decided that I had better things to do with my time.

[DiogenesLamp]

I don't need to "impute" anything. The economic records of the time demonstrate clearly who was making money, and who would lose a huge amount of money if the South became independent.

The same people who are *CONTROLLING US TODAY* were the same people who would have lost a huge amount of money back in 1860.

The United States stands thus: New York and Washington DC against all the rest of "Red State" America. The enemy conservatives face today, is the same enemy the confederates faced in 1861.

20 trillion in national debt. Who profited? Who lost?

New York and Washington DC profited. The rest of us still have to pay that money.