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To: FLT-bird
The way these people approach any discussion of the Civil War is to immediately introduce slavery as the primary issue of the war.

Lincoln's support for the Corwin amendment along with the US Constitutions guarantee that slaves would be returned to their masters, conclusively proves that Slavery was not the motivating force for the Union invasion of the South.

Allowing them to keep the discussion focused on slavery is a mistake. Slavery is a fig leaf for the evil thing they did in murdering people because the Washington DC power Cabal wanted to keep control of the Economic output of the Southern states.

The war was about economic power and who would control it. Lincoln's support for the Corwin Amendment indicates that the Union would clearly tolerate slavery indefinitely. What they would not tolerate is the South competing with the Northern power barons for European money and trade.

Money. Money. Money. Money.

That is the only thing the Civil War was fought about.

Slavery is just a lying deflection tactic to avoid discussing the truth.

316 posted on 03/19/2019 7:54:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

The Civil War changed into “freeing the black man” post Emancipation Executive Order and was the biggest bait and switch in the history of the USA.


318 posted on 03/19/2019 7:58:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp:

The way these people approach any discussion of the Civil War is to immediately introduce slavery as the primary issue of the war. Lincoln's support for the Corwin amendment along with the US Constitutions guarantee that slaves would be returned to their masters, conclusively proves that Slavery was not the motivating force for the Union invasion of the South. Allowing them to keep the discussion focused on slavery is a mistake. Slavery is a fig leaf for the evil thing they did in murdering people because the Washington DC power Cabal wanted to keep control of the Economic output of the Southern states. The war was about economic power and who would control it. Lincoln's support for the Corwin Amendment indicates that the Union would clearly tolerate slavery indefinitely. What they would not tolerate is the South competing with the Northern power barons for European money and trade. Money. Money. Money. Money. That is the only thing the Civil War was fought about. Slavery is just a lying deflection tactic to avoid discussing the truth.

Exactly right. They never have a good answer for why if it was really all about slavery, that was the very first thing the North offered up...and why the original 7 seceding states of the Deep South explicitly rejected it.

Its kind of like the old spread of slavery gambit where they admit the obvious...ie that slavery simply was not threatened in the US but say the Southern states were instead motivated by the desire to spread slavery to the western territories. Of course if this is so, why secede and thus give up all claim to the western territories and thus any chance to spread slavery there? Their very solution required them to give up what they were supposedly fighting about! oops. That doesn't work as an explanation.

Its as you said and as many Northern newspapers and politicians said openly at the time. It was all about money and empire. Without the Southern states and their lucrative trade and all the tax revenue they contributed and without them to serve as a captive market, the Northern states simply could not have prospered to anywhere near the extent they did. Northern factories found it very difficult to compete against Britain and France. Each of those had large empires to serve as captive markets and they had industrialized first. Thus they had economies of scale much sooner.

335 posted on 03/19/2019 8:54:29 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: DiogenesLamp
Lincoln's support for the Corwin amendment along with the US Constitutions guarantee that slaves would be returned to their masters, conclusively proves that Slavery was not the motivating force for the Union invasion of the South.

What was the difference between the Corwin Amendment and the Crittenden Amendment, and why did Lincoln support one and not the other?

346 posted on 03/20/2019 8:36:53 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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