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To: FLT-bird
Its nowhere near as well established as Lincoln's contempt for the US Constitution.

Complete nonsense.

We both know the CSA would have accepted it if it meant independence. Slavery was dying anyway. Many if not most throughout the Western world saw that.

Do we now? It's easy to look back over 150 years and say it was dying. But in 1861 you would be hard pressed to find many in the South who would agree with that. But that doesn't change the fact that the actions you say that they were pursuing were completely forbidden by the constitution.

Then you need to read much more since the US federal government did it to a much greater extent.

Again, complete nonsense.

Cabinet positions are vital for the functioning of a government in time of war.

What clause of the constitution requires any of those cabinet posts? Oh wait, I forget. Constitutional requirements were of no interest to Davis and his people.

The courts could be duly appointed once the national emergency was over and independence gained. The Founding Fathers didn't appoint judges during their war of Independence either.

The Founding Fathers were not operating under a document that required a judiciary. The Confederates were.

Was Lincoln faced with getting a new government up and running while simultaneously being attacked by a far larger aggressor like the Confederate government was faced with?

Lincoln faced "exigencies of war" just like Davis did. Would you cut him the same slack?

269 posted on 03/18/2019 1:53:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
DoodleDawg:

Complete nonsense.

Nope. Unvarnished truth.

Do we now? It's easy to look back over 150 years and say it was dying. But in 1861 you would be hard pressed to find many in the South who would agree with that. But that doesn't change the fact that the actions you say that they were pursuing were completely forbidden by the constitution. Yes we do. It was dying at the time. It had steadily been dying throughout the West in the 19th century. There were those in the Southern States who did see it in 1861. The rates of slave ownership were already declining in the Upper South and the percentage of the Black population who were freedmen was increasing. Look it up - do not attempt to demand a link you've used up all your alloted questions. There is no legal authority which ever ruled that they could not abolish slavery via the treaty making power so this is a false claim on your part.

Again, complete nonsense.

Again unvarnished truth.

What clause of the constitution requires any of those cabinet posts? Oh wait, I forget. Constitutional requirements were of no interest to Davis and his people

Where did I say a clause of the constitution did?

The Founding Fathers were not operating under a document that required a judiciary. The Confederates were.

The Confederates were operating under a national emergency that did not permit them time to appoint and confirm judges yet. Had Lincoln not started the war they doubtless would have gotten around to appointing the judiciary.

Lincoln faced "exigencies of war" just like Davis did. Would you cut him the same slack?

Total nonsense. Lincoln inherited an established government, an established judiciary which he ignored whenever it suited him, an established treasury, an established navy etc etc Despite that he trampled on constitutional rights of citizens to a vastly greater extent than Davis did in the Confederacy.

293 posted on 03/18/2019 4:52:21 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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