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To: FLT-bird

No, not even close. Look at the last sentence in his letter to Horace Greeley.

“I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.”

Yours,
A. Lincoln

You can’t find any confederate leader who believed that. Most believed that slavery was actually a positive good.
Now did Lincoln believe that there should be political equality between the races? No. At least not at first. But few but the more radical abolitionist believed that.

If you look on it as a scale of moral right and wrong from 0 to 10. You would have the confederate leaders at the bottom or 0. They believed that blacks were ordained by God to be slaves. The radical abolitionist at the top of the scale believing all men were created equal and should have equal rights at a 10. Lincoln would probably fall somewhere at a 7 or 8.


127 posted on 03/11/2019 5:18:00 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran

“The radical abolitionist at the top of the (moral) scale believing all men were created equal and should have equal rights at a 10.”

That is an interesting comment.

To help better understand your calibration, where do you rank John Brown and those that funded his murder raids?


130 posted on 03/11/2019 6:23:22 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: OIFVeteran

All 13 Original Colonies had slaves. Every one of them. A southerner was no more “racist” than the uppity New Englanders, who looked down their noses at Southerners since the founding of the country and still do.


131 posted on 03/11/2019 7:04:07 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness”)
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To: OIFVeteran
You can’t find any confederate leader who believed that. Most believed that slavery was actually a positive good. He believed it so much he orchestrated passage of a constitutional amendment which would have expressly protected slavery effectively forever.

Now did Lincoln believe that there should be political equality between the races? No. At least not at first. But few but the more radical abolitionist believed that. True....then again that a man was a man of his time or that he was more moderate than most or that he treated those around him kindly has never been a defense when the PC Revisionists were attacking Southern figures. Seems rather unbalanced to show such understanding for only one side while showing none for the other.

If you look on it as a scale of moral right and wrong from 0 to 10. You would have the confederate leaders at the bottom or 0. They believed that blacks were ordained by God to be slaves. The radical abolitionist at the top of the scale believing all men were created equal and should have equal rights at a 10. Lincoln would probably fall somewhere at a 7 or 8.

here is where you are wrong. Firstly the Confederates were far from a monolith. There were several prominent Confederates who were quite willing to abolish slavery. There were several like Lee who saw it as a moral evil. As for abolitionists, they were a tiny minority in the North and got trounced in election after election they had so little support. As for Lincoln he'd fall near the bottom of the scale given he started the bloodiest war in American history, trashed the constitution, was willing to enshrine slavery effectively forever in the constitution, committed all sorts of war crimes and committed genocide and ethnic cleansing against native people.

139 posted on 03/11/2019 6:26:49 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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