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Trump administration’s citizenship question on 2020 census blocked by federal judge
L. A. Times ^ | March 6, 2019 | Sarah Parvini

Posted on 03/07/2019 9:04:59 AM PST by RideForever

Political scientists predicted in court testimony that California would lose billions in federal funds plus at least one and possibly as many as three seats in the House — and the same number of electoral votes — if the citizenship question were to be used next year.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; 2020census; california; census; citizenship
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To: JoSixChip

“I thought this was already ruled on that it is constitutional?”

Correct. Conflicting rulings, headed to SCOTUS.


21 posted on 03/07/2019 9:28:35 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

It’s frustrating to say the least.


22 posted on 03/07/2019 9:28:51 AM PST by JoSixChip (Trump stands alone.)
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To: Paladin2

The answer to all 3 of your questions is “YES”.

The democrat fear is that inquiring about their citizenship
will discourage them from participating.


23 posted on 03/07/2019 9:28:55 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Paladin2

Are illegals supposed to, by law, be counted in teh Census?
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Anyone living in the US is counted toward assigning Congressional districts. It shouldn’t be so, but is past policy.

Now, for the reason the Dems don’t want the question, is that the Dems know many illegals will not fill out the census form, for fear they will be labeling themselves as illegal.

We really need to know how many citizens are living in the US, as opposed to those who are non-citizens.

When the number of illegals living is exposed, the Dems will have to face up to their skulduggery. Also voter rolls can be cross referenced with the census data and reveal how many non-citizens vote.


24 posted on 03/07/2019 9:30:07 AM PST by Yulee
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To: ScottfromNJ

Announced back in mid- February. They will hear the case in April, rule by end of June.


25 posted on 03/07/2019 9:31:21 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: semimojo; Paladin2

You’re off. When writing, enacting, applying a body of law, the original context carries forward to all subsequent sections.

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment lays out the context for the entire amendment. The context stays the same throughout.


26 posted on 03/07/2019 9:33:22 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: rlmorel

Make it go right up to the Supreme Court.


I believe it states in the article the Supreme Court already has a case before it. This is just another addition to it.


27 posted on 03/07/2019 9:33:27 AM PST by RideForever
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To: semimojo

counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”
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Illegals aren’t taxed, either.


28 posted on 03/07/2019 9:33:40 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: RideForever

Ah, thanks. I missed that. Grind it out, I say.


29 posted on 03/07/2019 9:35:08 AM PST by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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To: Yulee

When the number of illegals living is exposed, the Dems will have to face up to their skulduggery.

President Trump should declare this a long-term emergency and set up a system whereby 10,000 illegals can be deported each week. Then DO THAT and SAY he’s going to do that until those worthless POS traitors in Congress fully finance and built the wall.


30 posted on 03/07/2019 9:35:31 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Pravious

built = build


31 posted on 03/07/2019 9:35:55 AM PST by Pravious
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To: RideForever

Democrats still playing lets hide the illegal.


32 posted on 03/07/2019 9:39:41 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: RideForever

This needs to go to the Supremes.


33 posted on 03/07/2019 9:40:21 AM PST by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: RideForever
What a stupid decision. The judge is basically saying that the federal government has no rational interest in knowing how many citizens there are, nor any rational interest in knowing how many non-citizens there are.

That's simply beyond stupid when the entire issue of setting immigration and citizenship policy is a core responsibility of Congress and the President.

34 posted on 03/07/2019 9:41:53 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: RideForever

So now we wait for the Supreme Court to clarify. Since the question is not to filter out non-citizens, this doesn’t appear unconstitutional. If it is used to apportion representatives, etc., that might be since the constitution says count persons and doesn’t distinguish. But asking, that is a meaningful question to ask and hopefully the Supreme Court will see the reasonableness of the question.


35 posted on 03/07/2019 9:42:07 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: RideForever

Learn to properly excerpt. Who wants to dirty themselves at the LA Times?


36 posted on 03/07/2019 9:42:40 AM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: shelterguy

Illegals aren’t taxed, either.


Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is a felony. ‘Taxing’ them might be construed as aiding them because they become ‘entitled’ to benefits accrued to the taxes. If they are ‘taxed’ without receiving benefits, it may be legal but morally reprehensible.


37 posted on 03/07/2019 9:43:55 AM PST by RideForever
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“In contrast, if a single district judge does find something to be unconstitutional, they can issue an order against the defendant government that binds the government moving forward. “

Says who? That only works if the executive and legislature kowtows to that kind of bullsh!t. Also, Scrotus can reach down and vacate these ‘universal injunctions’ from the lower courts. The fact that they don’t tells you our courts are farked.


38 posted on 03/07/2019 9:44:07 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: RideForever
Political scientists predicted in court testimony that California would lose billions in federal funds plus at least one and possibly as many as three seats in the House — and the same number of electoral votes — if the citizenship question were to be used next year.

Yeah, that's kind of the whole point.

39 posted on 03/07/2019 9:44:41 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: RideForever

“Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is a felony”

Yes it is...This judge should be charged.


40 posted on 03/07/2019 9:45:44 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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