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They were followed into the hotel parking lot… why, no idea (Again, more to the story?). Asked why they were parked there, to which they stipulated they were going to get a room. Officer “THEN” stipulated that when they make a turn to be sure they use their turn signal. So they were going to get a room, without IDs? (Suspicious Activity) Passenger was acting fidgety and told not to reach into his bag… (Suspicious Activity) Won’t give his name and then says he has an ID, which he won’t relinquish… so now he has an ID, after he said he didn’t (Suspicious Activity). The passenger’s body language says a lot and is projecting a negative connotation. (Suspicious Activity) Told to not try to stuff anything between the seats (Suspicious Activity). The Officer is noticing he’s tensing up and asks him to not tense up (trying to deescalate the situation) The passenger was not being compliant and keep talking instead of obeying the commands of an officer. Re-watch the video and look at the cues and responses by both sides. Without all the information regarding the stop, no one can extrapolate why this situation escalated the way it did. There are many things that can be conveyed via body language, i.e. a hand gesture, posture or even a look. IMO, the media is projecting and trying to set a narrative, not investigating.


124 posted on 02/11/2019 11:53:54 AM PST by Brown Bag Special (Trust but VERIFY)
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To: Brown Bag Special

My mom always pays whenever we travel anywhere. I never even carry my ID unless I’m behind the wheel. And I leave my ID in my glove compartment.

I must be suspicious.

Nobody in AZ uses their turn signals. LOL


125 posted on 02/11/2019 11:59:03 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Brown Bag Special
They were followed into the hotel parking lot… why, no idea (Again, more to the story?). Asked why they were parked there, to which they stipulated they were going to get a room. Officer “THEN” stipulated that when they make a turn to be sure they use their turn signal. So they were going to get a room, without IDs? (Suspicious Activity) Passenger was acting fidgety and told not to reach into his bag… (Suspicious Activity) Won’t give his name and then says he has an ID, which he won’t relinquish… so now he has an ID, after he said he didn’t (Suspicious Activity). The passenger’s body language says a lot and is projecting a negative connotation. (Suspicious Activity) Told to not try to stuff anything between the seats (Suspicious Activity). The Officer is noticing he’s tensing up and asks him to not tense up (trying to deescalate the situation) The passenger was not being compliant and keep talking instead of obeying the commands of an officer. Re-watch the video and look at the cues and responses by both sides. Without all the information regarding the stop, no one can extrapolate why this situation escalated the way it did. There are many things that can be conveyed via body language, i.e. a hand gesture, posture or even a look. IMO, the media is projecting and trying to set a narrative, not investigating.

The man is evidently a criminal and drug user/runner from what I read and heard, and likely the car or he was targeted (since he was only a passenger), but from what the video shows, this man was hardly a physical threat that required 11 taser shots.

139 posted on 02/11/2019 2:52:02 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Brown Bag Special

Not one of the defenders of this scum has mentioned the passenger was moving around, reaching, setting stuf down and being verbally combative. Some folks on this page couldn’t see any of that and would have felt it was within the guys rights to reach under the seat for a gun and blow the cops head off.


153 posted on 02/11/2019 11:34:22 PM PST by Ikeon ( You may be right, I may be crazy.)
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