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Fact-checking Trump's move against Pelosi's Afghanistan trip (she brings loved ones to a war zone?)
cnn.com ^ | 1/18/19 | CNN's Holmes Lybrand

Posted on 01/19/2019 5:15:37 AM PST by Liz

Pelosi disinvited Trump from giving his SOTU initially citing security concerns. Then Pelosi's undisclosed plan to Afghanistan with a congressional delegation of seven members, and numerous other family members totaling a party of 93 traveling on the taxpayers' dime was cancelled.

The assistant Secy of Defense for legislative affairs -- with a few exceptions -- has to sign off to military airlift support for congressional delegations (CO/DEL) . But, the president can intervene. As commander in chief, he has authority over the military. In a later OMB memo, all congressional delegations are now prohibited from using "government owned, rented, leased, or chartered aircraft" without the approval of acting White House COS Mick Mulvaney.

According to her press office, Pelosi tried to fly commercial but the State Dept updated its security threat assessment, deeming it to be more dangerous because of he decision to make the trip public. Citing these security concerns, the delegation canceled the trip. One stop included a visit to US military personnel in a war zone, so the speaker can't go without military assistance.

We could not find another instance where a president denied particular members of Congress their CODEL request. It's also unprecedented that a president would alert the public to CODEL travel plans to a war zone. According to Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill, raised the State Dept's threat level assessment. There is precedent for speakers preventing particular members of Congress from traveling overseas.

According to retired Rear Admiral and CNN analyst John Kirby, lawmakers were temporarily denied CODEL requests to war zones during Obama's tenure due to sequestration and security concerns from military officials. Though, Kirby noted, the ban applied to both Republicans and Democrats and did not single out a particular member of Congress, as Trump did before his administration issued a blanket ban.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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41 posted on 01/19/2019 7:29:28 AM PST by Delta 21
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To: bk1000

Pelosi is just like pigeons:

They eat, crap & squawk ...


42 posted on 01/19/2019 7:30:31 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: COUNTrecount

“US president Donald Trump has declined to let US house speaker Nancy Pelosi use a military plane to visit Brussels on Friday, where she was to meet EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini. “

Federica and Nazi are two peas in a pod. I knew at the outset, the Brussels stop wasn’t to go to NATO HQ. She would have had no legitimate reason to visit there without the expressed permission of the Administration.


43 posted on 01/19/2019 7:43:14 AM PST by vette6387 (WQew)
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To: ridesthemiles
It is so they can party in Europe ..and we pay for it...she can always cancel going to Afghanistan ...
44 posted on 01/19/2019 7:43:17 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Makes me wonder if she REALLY intended to go there. Nobody in their right mind would bring grandkids to Afghanistan!!!


45 posted on 01/19/2019 7:48:24 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Liz

There will be a lot of private lobbyists following them in their own jets, ready to make many lucrative side deals. As promised by Nancy for their support, I imagine.

FYI. Here is a old story about how Joe Bidens family got rich with govt assistance.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/


46 posted on 01/19/2019 8:07:42 AM PST by Doctor DNA (Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones... But Some Words .....!)
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To: Liz

IOW - President Trump saved her from blundering into a dangerous environment w/o military escort....


47 posted on 01/19/2019 8:14:58 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: ProudVet97

In real life, they would only need an hour to refuel and swap pilots.


48 posted on 01/19/2019 9:46:27 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Liz

Only 93 in her entourage.. Beyonce is probably laughing her arse off at that.

If you can’t take 100 with you everywhere on someone else’s dime, then why go?


49 posted on 01/19/2019 10:44:17 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: Liz

What is certainly unprecedented is a congress critter taking their entire extended family on a taxpayer paid junket around the world.


50 posted on 01/19/2019 11:02:00 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: Doctor DNA

Missing in Action: Stimulus Sheriff Joe Biden
Michelle Malkin | october 14, 2012 | FR Posted by lowbridge

Remember when then-Pres Obama bragged about Joe Biden’s fiscal discipline cred in 2009? “...around the White House, we call him the Sheriff,” Obama warned government employees. “Because if you’re misusing taxpayer money, you’ll have to answer to him.”

Fast-forward to 2012. Call in the search teams. Since being appointed the nation’s stimulus spending cop, Sheriff Joe has taken a permanent donut break. He’s AWOL on oversight. In fact, he’s been bubble-wrapped, boxed and kept completely out of sight. The garrulous gaffe machine hasn’t sat down for a national media interview in five months.

The Democrats’ trillion-dollar “American Recovery and Reinvestment Act,” however, keeps piling up waste, failure, fraud and debt. Who benefited most? Big govt cronies. (Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...


Obama said at the stim bill signing at a special ceremony in Colorado
that VP Biden would be in charge of “keeping track of every penny.”

Biden’s son and brother are gonna help him disperse the money.


Offshore Fraudster had links to offshore fund run by VP’s relatives
Reuters on Yahoo | 2/23/09 | BY Ajay Kamalakaran

(Reuters) – A fund of offshore hedge funds run by two members of VP Joe Biden’s family was marketed exclusively by offshore firms controlled by Texas financier Allen Stanford, charged by regulators with an $8 billion fraud, the Wall Street Journal said.

The Bidens $50 million fund was jointly branded between the Bidens’ Paradigm Global Advisors LLC and the offshore Stanford Financial Group entity headquartered in Antigua, and was known as the Paradigm Stanford Capital Management Core Alternative Fund, the paper said. Stanford-related offshore companies marketed the Biden fund to investors and also invested about $2.7 million of their own money in the fund, the paper said, citing a lawyer for Paradigm.

Paradigm Global Advisors is owned through a holding company by the vice president Biden’s son, Hunter, and Joe Biden’s brother, James, according to the WSJ. Paradigm’s attorney, Marc LoPresti, who represents Hunter Biden and James Biden, as well as Paradigm, told the paper he did not know which Stanford entity invested the roughly $2.7 million. (Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...

NOTE A lawyer for Hunter Biden and James Biden told reporters the Bidens NEVER met or communicated with Stanford. (/snicker)

Stanford is in jail for 110 years-—but the Bidens got off scot-free.


51 posted on 01/19/2019 2:34:34 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: All

Flashback: Nancy Pelosi Doesn’t Fly Coach
NBC Philly ^ | Published Jul 17, 2009 | By Sajid Farooq
FR Posted on 1/17/2019 by 11th_VA

The San Francisco congresswoman has apparently taken to flying in style. And not just any style but military charter style, according to e-mails released this week. Pelosi’s staff has allegedly been “berating” military officials to get the best planes possibly for the speaker to fly across country, according to e-mails obtained by the government watchdog group Judicial Watch (you can read all the emails on their site) and first reported by The New York Post.

“Taken together, these documents show that Speaker Pelosi treats the Air Force like her personal airline,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton in a statement. “Not only does Speaker Pelosi issue unreasonable requests for military travel, but her office seems unconcerned about wasting taxpayer money with last minute cancellations and other demands.”

Pelosi allegedly demanded that the military provide nonstop flight service when she flies home to the Bay Area. But that’s not all. The emails show Pelosi demanding police protection on government planes. She even has a particular plane that is her favorite. What is the plane of choice for a Speaker of the House? Well Nancy Pelosi prefers to fly in Gulfstream’s G-5, made famous by Jay Z and 50-Cent rap videos. “It is my understanding there are no G-5s available for the House during the Memorial Day recess. This is totally unacceptable . . . The speaker will want to know where the planes are,” a Pelosi aide wrote in one of the e-mails to the military.

In another email the aide wanted one of the G-5s for a House delegation while they were already being used for senators and cabinet members. “This is not good news, and we will have some very disappointed folks, as well as a very upset speaker,” the e-mail said. (Excerpt) Read more at nbcphiladelphia.com ...


52 posted on 01/19/2019 2:35:44 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: BipolarBob

There were 3 Air Force buses going to be used, we only saw one on the video but there were 3.


53 posted on 01/19/2019 4:43:02 PM PST by marychesnutfan
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To: Liz
Pelosi disinvited Trump from giving his SOTU initially citing security concerns. Then Pelosi's undisclosed plan to Afghanistan with a congressional delegation of seven members, and numerous other family members totaling a party of 93 traveling on the taxpayers' dime was cancelled.

Got into a discussion about this with a guy in the local "chit chat". So I searched for any one of the several articles I read about it the day the trip was cancelled.

Could NOT find any mention of the 93 people. Figured I was going nuts. Then figured I'd come to FR and get a link, brilliant!

The first article that mentions it has a link, so I go check out the article. It has been scrubbed. It doesn't mention anything about the extra people!

Going now to check other links.

54 posted on 01/20/2019 11:20:26 AM PST by FrogMom (Time marches on...)
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To: FrogMom

Thanks for the input......democraps want this kept quiet.....nice that Nanzi blew their cover.


55 posted on 01/20/2019 11:24:53 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

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Sensible politics are so “unprecedented.”
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56 posted on 01/20/2019 11:29:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Liz
We could not find another instance where a president denied particular members of Congress their CODEL request.

There's a new sheriff in town.

57 posted on 01/20/2019 11:31:40 AM PST by dead (Our next president is going to be sooooo boring.)
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To: Liz

CNN:

“We could not find another instance where a president had singled out particular members of Congress and denied their CODEL request.”

From CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/fact-check-trump-afghanistan/index.html

In 2015, Speaker John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, disapproved Texas GOP Rep. Louie Gohmert’s planned trip to Egypt and Africa. (Boehner did the same to Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa earlier that year.)

According to retired Rear Admiral and CNN analyst John Kirby, lawmakers were temporarily denied CODEL requests to war zones during President Barack Obama’s tenure due to “sequestration” and security concerns from military officials.

Codel (plural codels) is an abbreviation of congressional delegation., government-paid trips abroad, designed to give lawmakers first-hand knowledge of matters relevant to their legislation.

How many of Pelosi’s family are members of congress? And if they are her delegation and are hired to work for her and are going to be paid for by taxpayer money, isn’t that nepotism?

This thing really stinks as using taxpayer money for a joy ride to Europe and the middle east for nothing but a few days of Hummus, Manakeesh, Grilled halloumi, Falafel, Tabouleh, Moutabal/baba ghanoush, or Fattoush. All at government expense. Sounds just like the trip Michelle took to Japan with the whole family at an exuberant price. My how these liberals are greedy.

rwood


58 posted on 01/20/2019 3:43:32 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71
How many of Pelosi’s family were in her travel delegation, hired to work for her, paid for by taxpayers?

BIG CLUE----All of this luggage was ret'd to Pelosi; indicates a lot of people were traveling with her.

59 posted on 01/20/2019 4:33:18 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

https://www.westernjournal.com/pelosi-photo-shows-amount-luggage-trip/

“Pelosi cited the government shutdown and ensuing lack of funding for security agencies as the reason for the cancellation.”

This is a more reasonable excuse and one she actually provided. She got caught trying to use free government airfare to take a vacation to that area with her family using military security to protect them and Trump denied it. She could have traveled civilian airlines but it would have been at her expense and without the security she would have had landing under military oversight possibly even at military bases. She’s always been a liar and thief.

rwood


60 posted on 01/21/2019 10:38:48 AM PST by Redwood71
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