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To: FLT-bird
Does anybody with even a rudimentary understanding of economics think New York paid those tariffs?

LOL! You think others are economically challenged? Really?

Take away the vast vast hinterland that generates all that economic activity and NY would have its balls chopped off and would never recover. It was the same then as TONS of even NORTHERN newspapers were screaming.

In 1863 tariff revenue was over $110 million dollars. How was that possible without the South and their demand for imported goods?

If Wal-Mart has a ship full of goods land in the busiest port in America, Long Beach California, does anybody think the city of Long Beach or the state of California pays the tariff?

Whoever had ordered those goods pay the tariff, not the city of Long Beach or the state of California. Duh.

But say for the sake of argument that Walmart was limited to what was called the Confederacy. And they had millions of customers throughout the South. Would then be ordering their imported goods be landed in New York and add all those extra costs onto their goods? Or would they have those goods shipped to Charleston or New Orleans or Savannah where their customers were?

598 posted on 01/20/2019 7:34:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
LOL! You think others are economically challenged? Really?

McPherson certainly is as are any PC Revisionists who think that WHERE the cargo lands and thus the tariffs are paid somehow means that locality or state are paying the tariff. -----------------------------------------------------------

In 1863 tariff revenue was over $110 million dollars. How was that possible without the South and their demand for imported goods?

So all those commentators at the time, all those politicians and newspapers as well as a tax expert who has written about it were wrong and you are right? Because the US was importing things in the midst of a war that means it was the Northern states doing the exporting/importing and thus paying the tariff all along? Please tell me that's not your argument. ----------------------------------------------------------

Whoever had ordered those goods pay the tariff, not the city of Long Beach or the state of California. Duh. But say for the sake of argument that Walmart was limited to what was called the Confederacy. And they had millions of customers throughout the South. Would then be ordering their imported goods be landed in New York and add all those extra costs onto their goods? Or would they have those goods shipped to Charleston or New Orleans or Savannah where their customers were?

If the CSA had gone its own way and was thus free of the Navigation Acts that all but monopolized trade through those areas that had a larger shipping industry to begin with...ie NY and New England, then yes I'm sure they would import in ports that were in their own country. Rhett and others said as much when he said Charleston would quickly become a great metropolis once the Southern states seceded.

Hey, I'll give you credit. At least you are able to recognize that WHERE the goods are landed and thus WHERE the tariff is paid is not indicative of WHO is doing the paying. That alone puts you miles ahead of James McPherson and lots of other PC Revisionists in understanding how taxes work. Yes, their argument really is that idiotic.

599 posted on 01/20/2019 7:46:48 AM PST by FLT-bird
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