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To: jeffersondem
Historians sympathetic to Lincoln and his invasion of the South have cobbled together some good-faith explanations of President Lincoln's decision to reverse his earlier advocacy of the Declaration of Independence.

And those opposed to Lincoln have a habit of twisting his words out of recognition.

Our back and forth is not sustainable unless you agree to make serious responses.

Agreed, considering how ridiculous your posts are. I noticed that you didn't try and address the point question I asked. Where did Lincoln say that the success of rebellion was guaranteed? Or that it would never be opposed?

1,164 posted on 02/17/2019 5:24:36 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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“I noticed that you didn’t try and address the point question I asked. Where did Lincoln say that the success of rebellion was guaranteed?”

Lincoln’s 1848 statement, previously referenced, did not address guarantees so I did not mention guarantees. I was addressing what the man did say; not what he didn’t say.

But, for the purpose of this post, let’s take a look at your contention that Lincoln intended to imply guarantee of success was necessary before the sacred rights provision could be invoked.

Lincoln’s statement would now read, in part:

“Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. However, this sacred right is only available to larger, more powerful people seeking to shake off governments of smaller, weaker people and whose chance of success can be guaranteed. This sacred right IS NOT AVAILABLE (emphasis added) to smaller, weaker people seeking to shake off governments of larger, stronger people and whose chance of success can not be guaranteed.” - Abraham Lincoln

Is this your understanding of what Lincoln was saying?


1,167 posted on 02/17/2019 10:45:49 AM PST by jeffersondem
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