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To: rktman

Sheesh, Eight posts and no one bothered to address Shep Smith’s points.


9 posted on 01/08/2019 7:09:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why the hell should we?

Smith is a preening, drama queen moron. Don’t give him any attention. Just ignore the fool.


13 posted on 01/08/2019 7:13:35 PM PST by Conserv (alifornia soe)
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To: SeekAndFind

He had points?


20 posted on 01/08/2019 7:18:17 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why bother?

Waste of time, and annoys the pig!


82 posted on 01/08/2019 9:24:32 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Sheesh, Eight posts and no one bothered to address Shep Smith’s points.”

1) On average, the crime rate of illegals is LOWER than the crime rate of Americans and legal immigrants. It is unfortunate that

Wrong. The crime rate of illegals far exceeds that of Americans. Smith is using a survey (flawed survey) that linked ALL immigrants to show that it is lower.

2) For the past several years, the number of Mexicans moving back to Mexico EXCEEDS the number of Mexican illegals coming to the USA. In other words, illegal crossings are actually DOWN, not UP.

Wrong. There is no proof available for this statement. Even pro-amnesty Pew can’t verify the number or repatriates, and I’m not aware of any epidemic killing off Mexicans in the US.

3) Drugs like heroin or opioids do not mostly come in from our borders with Mexico but from other ports of entries. We should focus on those other port of entries, not waste billions of dollars building the wall.

Wrong. That “fact” was based on the information that of drugs caught at the port of entry. It is unknowable how much else comes in at the rest of the border. We do know that the sum total of drugs have a Mexican origin

4) The number of illegal overstays in the USA far exceeds the number of illegal crossings at our borders. Trump is overemphasizing the border when he should be focusing on those illegal overstayers.

Wrong again. Different surveys state overstays as between 40 and 60 percent. But that is based on using the number of illegals also entering the country, a number which no one knows. Illegals sneaking in don’t report to the Census Bureau. Pew has come out with a number of illegal aliens of 11 million, static now for 15 years. They base it on a guess of how many are here based on how many are caught.

5) Trump owns the shutdown because he himself said that he would be proud to own the shutdown. As this drags on for months, millions of people will be without their paychecks to pay for their day to day living.

Boo Hoo. Feds, the best paid and most secure employees in the nation, have never missed a day’s pay over all their shutdowns. If they don’t know how to save for a rainy day, too bad.


84 posted on 01/08/2019 9:28:49 PM PST by oldbill
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