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Democrats could sue if Trump declares national emergency over wall, Hoyer says
rollcall ^ | January 8, 2019

Posted on 01/08/2019 12:04:42 PM PST by SMGFan

Majority leader says technology, more personnel at border would be more effective than barrier

House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Democratic leadership has not yet discussed what their reaction would be if President Donald Trump were to follow through on his threat to declare a national emergency on the border to build his wall, but he said a lawsuit is certainly a possibility.

Hoyer reiterated Democrats’ opposition to a border wall and said they’re not really interested in alternative barriers either. He said experts have said neither a wall nor fencing is what’s really needed at the border but rather technology, drones and more personnel. Democrats and Republicans remain at an impasse over border security funding and seem unlikely to reach a compromise soon to reopen the government, which has been partially shut down now for 18 days.

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To: marajade
And how would the Court enforce it?

Grow up. The Trump Administration would not defy a court order.

61 posted on 01/08/2019 1:52:10 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

I’m not sure the judges have the same standing with an NE order as opposed to an EO. Are judges not neutered under a NE? If aliens land on the WH lawn and the president issues a NE order, what judge would have standing to challenge that?


62 posted on 01/08/2019 1:52:44 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Yo-Yo

“So the government stays shut down forever?”

Just as a point of fact: there are only 9 depts./agencies affected. Staffed with 85% ‘non essential’ personnel. (which should provide an opportunity now to cut that nonE staffing by 50-80% or eliminate the depts. all together but that’s another thread)


63 posted on 01/08/2019 1:55:56 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: SMGFan

A whole!


64 posted on 01/08/2019 1:58:59 PM PST by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: blueplum
I’m not sure the judges have the same standing with an NE order as opposed to an EO. Are judges not neutered under a NE? If aliens land on the WH lawn and the president issues a NE order, what judge would have standing to challenge that?

Trump has the authority to issue a National Emergency Order under the National Emergencies Act, which is a law like any other, and spells out what is and is not a "National Emergency."

Interpreting the law is what courts are for. And if you read the statutes, there is a lot more wiggle room for the bad guys to argue that a state of emergency does not exist, than there was for the Travel Ban, and we lost the Travel Ban argument right up until the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision.

So yes, the courts would have standing to block any declaration of National Emergency until the argument of whether a state of National Emergency existed was fully played out in the courts.

65 posted on 01/08/2019 2:02:51 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

You never know.


66 posted on 01/08/2019 2:07:51 PM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: MyKidsDad73

The question that should be asked is how much does it cost America in welfare, lawlessness and drug deaths if the pipeline remains open?


67 posted on 01/08/2019 2:12:04 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: blueplum

The great share of illegal drugs are brought in by vehicles that run over areas of the border across desert land. A barrier would stop such vehicles.


68 posted on 01/08/2019 2:17:59 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Yo-Yo

The Trump Administration has a strong case for issuing a National Emergency Order:

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/yes-the-president-has-the-authority-to-build-the-wall/


69 posted on 01/08/2019 2:21:34 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Logical me

Thanks for your submission to the Eeyore of the Day award contest.


70 posted on 01/08/2019 3:39:00 PM PST by No.6
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To: SMGFan

Stop lying to the American people. If those techniques were more effective, you would not recommend them.


71 posted on 01/08/2019 3:49:16 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: jonrick46
"The question that should be asked is how much does it cost America in welfare, lawlessness and drug deaths if the pipeline remains open?"

If the pipeline remains open, the cost will be the future of the country. Conservatives and the GOP are being buried by an endless wave of invaders who will be mainlined to vote for Democrats forever. Soon the demographics will assure that the Left will takeover with nothing more than a token GOP opposition on a national level. Then, the real oppression of all of us who are wrong thinkers will begin.

72 posted on 01/08/2019 3:57:51 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Yo-Yo
I respect your answers and thank you, but it doesn't make me feel very comfortable about an invasion from Mars. :)
73 posted on 01/08/2019 5:44:50 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: SMGFan

Who cares. Ignore the courts.


74 posted on 01/08/2019 5:48:44 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: SMGFan

Time for sane Americans to start suing the democrat betrayers


75 posted on 01/08/2019 10:29:48 PM PST by elbook
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