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Democrats could sue if Trump declares national emergency over wall, Hoyer says
rollcall ^ | January 8, 2019

Posted on 01/08/2019 12:04:42 PM PST by SMGFan

Majority leader says technology, more personnel at border would be more effective than barrier

House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer said Democratic leadership has not yet discussed what their reaction would be if President Donald Trump were to follow through on his threat to declare a national emergency on the border to build his wall, but he said a lawsuit is certainly a possibility.

Hoyer reiterated Democrats’ opposition to a border wall and said they’re not really interested in alternative barriers either. He said experts have said neither a wall nor fencing is what’s really needed at the border but rather technology, drones and more personnel. Democrats and Republicans remain at an impasse over border security funding and seem unlikely to reach a compromise soon to reopen the government, which has been partially shut down now for 18 days.

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To: Mouton

The true experts announced the need for a wall at the press briefing that President Trump crashed last week, and the left were outraged. Nevertheless, the left still puts forth their bullshit statement attributed to “the experts”.

I think that the public should be able to decide who is right and who is full of it. If President Trump uses the same ploy as last week and has Border Patrol personnel declare that they are the experts and they state we need a wall, the left will lose this battle.


21 posted on 01/08/2019 12:27:04 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: nikos1121
I think if they block this, and by doing so, he keeps the gov’t shut down, then they lose big. If he is unopposed, starts allocating funds for the wall, re-opens the gov’t, then everyone wins.

Do do you think that President Trump will declare an emergency, order the military to begin building the metal slat wall-like thing, and sign a continuing resolution that does not contain wall funding?

Or do you think he'll keep the government partial shut-down going until the court litigation has been completed? (Which would be several months, if not years.)

22 posted on 01/08/2019 12:29:24 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SMGFan

No barrier at all would require thousands of drones and at least 5 Border Patrol officers for every Mexican walking across the border.


23 posted on 01/08/2019 12:30:51 PM PST by Terry Mross (I)
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To: marajade

....experts have said neither a wall nor fencing is what’s really needed at the border but rather technology, drones and more personnel.
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So, unless we tag them as they pass over the border, there is no way to track them all down. Drones and personnel can only follow and track so many.

The objective is to stop illegal aliens from coming across the border, not track them as they cross.

That’s why we have millions of illegal aliens in our country now. A wall works, once installed and monitored. A physical barrier works, not eye in the sky.


24 posted on 01/08/2019 12:31:28 PM PST by Yulee
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To: marajade
And how are they going to get more personnel when the Democrats demonize them?
Why do you think we never here the Dems put a price tag on their "Increase Border Security" argument?

Think about it... how much personnel and technology would $25 Billion buy over the next 10 years? I honestly don't know... but I know this, at the end of 10 years that same amount of money (maybe more, given inflation) would need to be spent for the next 10 years.

Even a idiot like me knows that building a $25 Billion wall is a one-time expense that will last for decades.

In addition, what's to stop the next Dem President from scaling back the "Board Security" spending on personnel and technology... especially come re-election time when they need to increase their voter base?

It's pretty easy to spend less money on "Boarder Security"... it's a bit more difficult to make a 20-30 ft. wall disappear.


25 posted on 01/08/2019 12:32:18 PM PST by MyKidsDad73 (My apologies for any irreverent humor that you may find offensive. : ))
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To: SMGFan

In other words, the dims are in charge and Trump is a figurehead... and so are all of us who voted for this inept misplaced President.. we, beer drinking, toothless, hicks, need to have a father type elite show us where we went wrong...while they nullify our votes. We just dont know enough.


26 posted on 01/08/2019 12:33:03 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: SMGFan

Yeah, let democrats sue to keep our borders open... it’s like they’re running a recruiting program for us...


27 posted on 01/08/2019 12:34:33 PM PST by GOPJ (Whole towns in flyover died when jobs left for China. DC didn't gave a damn.Now they want OUR tears?)
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To: SMGFan
We are no longer a Republic Constitutional Government. We are under the control of the communists Democrats who controls all of Government and the MSM. Trump will not get the wall. He does not have the power and if he tries he will be forced to go with what the communists courts tell him. America is finished. And the people will not help him. What Trump accomplished is unbelievable.
28 posted on 01/08/2019 12:35:26 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Pollster1

Not only do other countries have border walls or fences, they enforce those barriers with LIVE ammo, which they actually USE. If our border patrol used it in such a way as these other countries do, Democrats would be apoplectic. Wall, fence, barrier, ammo....they want NONE of them. They don’t WANT border security, PERIOD. They want open borders.


29 posted on 01/08/2019 12:35:53 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Col Frank Slade

There may only be 8 on the court by the time it gets before them. The vote would be 4 to 4. That means the lower court order stands.

So Ginzee better die before the court hears the case. It would seem to me the case would be held up until a 9th Justice is sworn in.


30 posted on 01/08/2019 12:36:07 PM PST by Terry Mross (I)
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To: SMGFan

They would need to overturn their own National Emergencies Act of 1976, but then, ya, they could sue.


31 posted on 01/08/2019 12:37:56 PM PST by monkeybrau
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To: BenLurkin

Send all the illegal immigrants to Hawaii.


32 posted on 01/08/2019 12:41:03 PM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: SMGFan

At the point the Rats sue to stop the US from defending America and continue the invasion, they have declared themselves enemies of the US. When is enough enough and the proper response is “open fire?”


33 posted on 01/08/2019 12:42:04 PM PST by Truth29
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To: SMGFan

Anyone can sue, Steny. It is whether or not you can WIN that matters. Just remember that DJT does not play to lose, and he will not lose on his signature issue.


34 posted on 01/08/2019 12:42:11 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: SMGFan

Eventually these commies will force PDJT to just go ahead and defend USA despite their bullsheit or any commie court orders to contrary ( the courts have no jurisdiction over national defense - it’s a presidential responsibility ). They’ll scream but they always screwm. It’s part of their Goebbrlssmeat and big lie technique. It’s gittrn to the chicken little stage where nobody listens to them anymore anyway


35 posted on 01/08/2019 12:43:47 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians arent born, they’re excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Gahanna Bob

How many of these experts have fences or walls around their homes as opposed to drones and technology?


36 posted on 01/08/2019 12:48:43 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Pravious

These two idiots will be hanging themselves with every sentence they stumble through. The more time they get, the worse it is for them.


37 posted on 01/08/2019 12:50:31 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Hopefully Justice Ruth Buzzie will kick the bucket by then.


38 posted on 01/08/2019 12:59:34 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Yo-Yo

I think I’d tell him, I’m declaring this an emergency, and I’m ordering funds allocated for the wall, and our military to start building it.

I don’t think he’ll go into detail about the “what ifs” he can simply say that he would still like to see funding for the wall thru Congress. He wants a bill from congress that addresses the immigration issues, and he’ll sign it.

I don’t see why he should keep the gov’t shut down, if he’s going forward with the national emergency, do you?


39 posted on 01/08/2019 12:59:38 PM PST by nikos1121 (The Patriot is a scarce man. The timid join him only when his cause succeeds, Mark Twain)
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To: Wizdum

I am beginning to believe that Democrats are being Brazen and bold because they know that the 2020 election fix is in, and Republicans have done absolutely nothing about the voter fraud that was very evident in the Congressional elections. It was a National Disgrace.


40 posted on 01/08/2019 1:01:01 PM PST by Maranatha7757
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