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To: rktman

The entire “green movement” is one big collection of fund-raising lies. Lies to promote fund raising.


2 posted on 12/31/2018 9:43:24 AM PST by samtheman (How can there be so many brain damaged Americans?)
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To: samtheman

And, they do an excellent job of it. Sad to say.


3 posted on 12/31/2018 9:49:23 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: samtheman

It isn’t primarily designed to raise funds; it is designed to raise taxes, and force Westerners to accept a lower standard of living. If the growing middle classes of the two Asian giants with over a billion people each wanted to buy a car, then their already-high pollution levels would skyrocket. Since they know Westerners enjoy a standard of living, they won’t settle for bicycles or packed trains forever.

Ride-sharing in this country is symptomatic of the problem; young Americans with wages falling to meet the rising Third World wages can’t afford cars (never mind families or homes), while the often-foreign drivers (at least in my area in northeastern NJ) can’t afford the cars without “sharing” them - still a step up from being one of 15,000 passengers on a single train in India or Africa.


9 posted on 12/31/2018 10:03:13 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: samtheman

Contrary to popular opinion, plastic DOES decompose. Exposed to sunlight, the compounds that make up most plastics are gradually degraded and depolymerized, reducing back to its original components, but it is a slow process. Once the depolymerization has proceeded to a point, then bacterial action further reduces the organic compounds back into carbon dioxide and methane, then dispersed into the environment.

Or the process may be greatly accelerated by simply using the discarded plastic products as fuel in an incinerator, and using the heat energy as power source, perhaps to heat water or generate electricity.

For a sure, clean and thorough elimination of plastic waste, a system called Plasma Arc Conversion, deconstructs the structure of ALL organic materials, breaking the majority of all organic waste into hydrogen and carbon monoxide, syngas, by sending it through an electric arc at some 18,000 degrees, which turns most elements into an ion stripped of its valence electrons. Metallic ions fall out of the syngas mix and are trapped in a vitreous compound made up of mostly silica, and is drained away in a thick taffy-like ooze, where it may be further refined into either aggregate, stone-like material that may be used in road building or even formed into bricks for construction, or it may serve as a high-quality ore for many of the metallic elements it contains, perhaps much more concentrated than most ores that are being commercially extracted now.

Meanwhile, the syngas being produced makes an excellent fuel to poser the electric generation plant that produces the sustained plasma arc that maintains the flow of organic material into syngas. This process actually yields MORE syngas than is consumed by by burning it as the source of heat energy for the electricty generation.

Once the technical difficulties get worked out, virtually ALL plastic waste may be then totally recycled, some ending up as the feedstock for synthesis of hydrocarbons through the Fischer-Tropsch process, or by thermal depolymerization, the process by which biomass is converted into various hydrocarbons, which can be done on a commercial basis to dispose of organic matter in such locations as slaughterhouses. Under sufficient heat and pressure, in the presence of sufficient water to make the process work, biomass can be rapidly converted from its original composition into a form of crude oil, kerogen. This process takes a matter of only a few hours to do what takes place at depths beneath the earth’s crust. over a matter of thousands or even millions of years.


16 posted on 12/31/2018 10:28:22 AM PST by alloysteel (Man does not live by bread alone. He needs chocolate cake too.)
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To: samtheman

Lies to promote fund raising ... and hefty pay checks ...


19 posted on 12/31/2018 10:40:05 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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