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To: rlmorel

I kind of feel it started off with Flynn deciding to lie about what he talked about, even though he had some idea that the conversation might have been taped.

It was a silly lie, a lie about something that did not matter at all, but when the government is out to get you, any lie is all they need.

Sure, Comey, Stroyk, and McCabe all lied under oath, and one of them has actually been fired for it, and none of them face a single day of jail. But that’s because government is corrupt.


94 posted on 12/18/2018 12:57:01 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
That they ALL lie is unmistakably clear....it's now about how to make 'determinations' that stay within the boundaries of law.
95 posted on 12/18/2018 1:00:02 PM PST by caww
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Your verbiage "Flynn deciding to lie about what he talked about" I think is jumping to a conclusion that might not be warranted.

If you read this Byron York article from the Washington Examiner (a factual article) from early in this year, it is pretty clear that if there was indeed deception, it was benign.

Byron York: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied.

Here is the core of it from that article: "...Despite the high level of classification, word of the Justice Department's concerns got to the press. On Jan. 12, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius reported that Flynn and Kislyak had talked. "What did Flynn say, and did it undercut U.S. sanctions?" Ignatius asked. "The Logan Act (though never enforced) bars U.S. citizens from correspondence intending to influence a foreign government about 'disputes' with the United States. Was its spirit violated?" Three days later, on Jan. 15, Vice President-elect Mike Pence (remember, this was all happening before the Trump administration took office) denied that Flynn had discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador. "They [Flynn and Kislyak] did not discuss anything having to do with the United States' decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia," Pence told CBS..."

Here is what took place as I see it:

Keep in mind all this time leading up to his interview with the FBI, Flynn did not have a copy of the transcript of the phone call with the Russian Ambassador, but he was surely aware there was one, being well versed in these things. So Comey said under oath that the FBI initially did not feel Flynn was being deceptive. Flynn went into the meeting feeling he was talking to peers to work together to resolve some issue, so his guard was down.

Apparently, the FBI fostered that, and Comey bragged about luring him into that trap. Openly bragged about it.

With all this information, that there was a transcript the FBI and Justice had, and Flynn did not have though it is a certainty he knew it existed, is it possible that Flynn did not specifically remember? When he was called on vacation in the Dominican Republic, could he have been impaired, even a little? Why would he deliberately lie, knowing there was a transcript as he surely did? And Comey, under oath, said there was no deception? In my book, the people who leaked that information (about the conversation Gen. Flynn had with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyakto) to the press should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

100 posted on 12/18/2018 2:57:43 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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