[rjsimmon]

All of the AGW types keep using CO₂ as the root cause of warming. Ice core analysis has shown time and again that CO₂ FOLLOWS all global warming.

[Grimmy]

AGW is fraud. It’s always been fraud. It will only ever be fraud.

It’s a scam to fleece the sheep and create the appearance of a need for a totalitarian government. It has never been anything else.

[neverevergiveup]

Actually, instead of all the computer modeling, I would like to see them build a complex model system in which they can simulate the sun, sun-spots, atmospheric changes, etc. etc. Of course it would be too complicated to build any such model in which all the various contributory components were included (e.g. ocean temperatures, cloud cover, urban heat sinks, variability of the soil/rock/substrate to hold or radiate temperatures over time, etc. etc.), but at least it would be something ‘real’ you could do tests in.

I find it interesting that after years and years of development of computer modeling in aircraft design, engineers still also use wind tunnels. Arguably, the amount of variables involved in aircraft (or auto) development are many fewer and less complex than those involved in weather and climate on a planetary scale, yet there is still enough uncertainty that an actual physical model system remains indispensable. Yet, climate scientists use computer modeling exclusively in their predictions and have the hubris to say it's ‘settled science’..

[JPJones]

“All of the AGW types keep using CO2 as the root cause of warming. Ice core analysis has shown time and again that CO2 FOLLOWS all global warming. “

Right.

But THIS TIME is different!/s

[Armscor38]

“All of the AGW types keep using CO2 as the root cause of warming. Ice core analysis has shown time and again that CO2 FOLLOWS all global warming. “

It’s the other way around.

“Overall, more than 90% of the glacial-interglacial warming occurs after the atmospheric CO2 increase (Figure 3).”

https://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature-intermediate.htm

[rlmorel]

Right...as the temperature warms, CO2 is absorbed into seawater, and as the temperature cools, CO2 is released into the atmosphere.

The rise in CO2 levels is a lagging indicator for seawater warming which lags atmospheric warming.

The left knows this. Al Gore knows this, it is why in his stupid “Inconvenient Truth” video, he was very careful to not put the two graphs one directly above the other on the same scale.

Honest researchers would have not put them on SEPARATE graphs which over long time limits on the “X” axis would make that important “alignment” disappear.

The graphs show TEMPERATURE increases, followed by 100-1000 years later, by CO2 outgassing from seawater, resulting in an increase in atmospheric CO2 levels.

Of course, the Left has been trying madly to get rid of that lag, because it doesn’t fit the storyline. I just read an article where they have found some way to mathematically pound that square peg of “CO2 lags behind temperature” to the climate alarmist “temperature increase lags after CO2 increase”.

They will make it the truth, with the help of a compliant media and educational system.