Posted on 12/09/2018 12:52:17 PM PST by Olog-hai
Top House Democrats on Sunday raised the prospect of impeachment or almost-certain prison time for President Donald Trump if it’s proved that he directed illegal hush-money payments to women, adding to the legal pressure on the president over the Russia investigation and other scandals.
“There’s a very real prospect that on the day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him, that he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time,” said Rep. Adam Schiff, the incoming chairman of the House intelligence committee. “The bigger pardon question may come down the road as the next president has to determine whether to pardon Donald Trump.”
Rep. Jerry Nadler, the incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, described the details in prosecutors’ filings Friday in the case of Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, as evidence that Trump was “at the center of a massive fraud.”
“They would be impeachable offenses,” Nadler said. …
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They are saying the day Trump leaves office, he will be arrested. Senate has nothing to do with it. But if that happens, expect a lot of red states to issue warrants for blue politicians
“Just how are they going to manage to get 67 votes to convict in the US Senate when there are 53 Republican Senators?”
Because they’re not republicans. They’re rinos and neverTrumpers...scumbag politicians that genuflect to the corrupt stasi state. They’d crawl over broken glass to get rid of Trump. They just need a ‘legal’ fig leaf from Mueller.
What will be the course of this revolution? Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. […]It wasn’t just Marx and Engels who thought the USA was “democratic” even though it was not. Look who else thought so:
Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. […]
In America, where a democratic constitution has already been established, the communists must make the common cause with the party which will turn this constitution against the bourgeoisie and use it in the interests of the proletariat — that is, with the agrarian National Reformers. …
— The Principles of Communism
Roundly described, socialism is a proposition that every community, by means of whatever forms of organization may be most effective for the purpose, see to it for itself that each one of its members finds the employment for which he is best suited and is rewarded according to his diligence and merit, all proper surroundings of moral influence being secured to him by the public authority. “State socialism” is willing to act though state authority as it is at present organized. It proposes that all idea of a limitation of public authority by individual rights be put out of view, and that the State consider itself bound to stop only at what is unwise or futile in its universal superintendence alike of individual and of public interests. The thesis of the state socialist is that no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory.The disease has been well over a century and a half in the making.
Applied in a democratic state, such doctrine sounds radical, but not revolutionary. It is only an acceptance of the extremest logical conclusions deducible from democratic principles long ago received as respectable. For it is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals. Limits of wisdom and convenience to the public control there may be: limits of principle there are, upon strict analysis, none. …
— Socialism and Democracy by Woodrow Wilson
You sound like you hope not...
I am hoping that this crap ends quickly as possible.
It’s funny. My mother - a former democrat - actually agrees with you.
They’re not going to vote to convict.
Home Depot and Lowes had better stock up on yellow safety vests
I have two already, I would share
They have to do it in many ways it doesn’t matter if it’s Trump any GOPer in the WH will do. They have to establish an equivalency with Slick. 30% to 50% of their base demands it. All it takes is a simple majority. If they can re-elect that corrupt nitwit Pelosi to the Speaker’s chair they can do impeachment. Hillary probably demands it, she’s probably convinced herself that’s why she lost - Slick’s impeachment. In her mind impeaching Trump negates that. So impeaching Trump and that final obstacle will be removed so she then can fulfill her destiny!
It does not take a simple majority when it comes to the Senate.
Yes I know!
Removing him is not the point, they know that’s not going to happen. The point is making Trump tarred with impeachment like Slick. Symbolism over substance! These people wrote the book on that! Or have you forgotten?
“They’re not going to vote to convict.”
I hear that idiocy repeated a lot. That’s why most of the republicans are still supporting an overt coup(Mueller and gang) against the President of the United States.
If mueller comes up with something damaging enough, the POS republicans in the senate will have to convict and remove. They’ll be compelled to uphold the rule of law dontchaknow.
This is not hard.
Clinton won reelection because he was impeached. Rs suffered a huge backlash. I say: bring it on!
If Mueller had it. We’d know by now. And I don’t appreciate being called an idiot.
The Trump 2020 victory begins this January!
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Not if the GOP can help it. They will turn against Trump big time. The GOP has never backed him.
There’s not enough to get a 2/3’rd majority.
“If Mueller had it. We’d know by now. “
I hear that i#$#%cy repeated a lot, too.
Clinton was reelected on November 5, 1996 and he was impeached on December 19, 1998.
I agree that the impeachment did the Republicans no good, but Clinton never faced voters again.
The Senate did try Clinton, however. Things have got to make it out of the House and into there to be the same thing as with him.
You mean like how Kavanaugh was not confirmed?
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