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To: 9YearLurker

Agreed. We have some 40 million people in the U.S. employed by multiple levels of government in various ways including contractors. Then there are the NGOs and other entities subsidized. They are taking us towards socialism more than any other group, and many of them are certainly not essential to us. Many of them are even deleterious.

There are about as many people using social programs, but they, as a group, are far less political than the employees who receive leftist indoctrination in universities, employee association (government union) newsletters, etc.

Too much big government spending on high salaries and benefits, and all of us will need to get politically involved (including funding, at least small bits from each of us) to reverse it! We need more manufacturing instead! That’s the only way we’ll reduce the piles of debt and balance budgets.


40 posted on 12/08/2018 2:14:12 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

It is actually our system where people voted in change, but Trump has, it increasingly appears, been defeated and co-opted.

Look how ineptly the GOP/RNC let the Dems steal control of the House, and yet Trump promises he’ll let the Romney run the RNC up through 2020. Look at the Bushbot he just nominated as his next AG. And how the FBI/DOJ attorney can supposedly thwart the will of the admin by stopping Comey’s testimony in Congress.

How much has our approach to illegal immigration actually changed? What happened to the repeal of Obamacare? What sort of legislation to drain the Swamp was passed or even has been proposed?

Yeah, Trump still puts out the defiant tweets, but I wonder how much he was beat back and ultimately buckled to the threat of Mueller really prosecuting to the level of Ivanka and Don Jr.

Yesterday he not only nominated a Bushbot AG but also a Deep Swamper as his new CoS. Two really pivotal positions. Meanwhile he’s meeting with W again in January and the Bushes have been elevated to minor saints the way McCain was a couple of months ago.

Yeah, there are some murmurings now of the Clinton Foundation getting investigated. But more than a year in after the CFO reportedly flips for leniency and no actual trials, etc.?

I don’t doubt but that the Qanon thing has had the Trumps believing in their methods, but in effect has it been an opposition taming psyop?

I don’t see us out of Afghanistan or Syria or really substantially operating foreign policy differently than neocons would do overtly.

There are the vaunted trade negotiations, but how much how far do we really get with that? The new NAFTA, for example, gives Google/Facebook/Twitter new legal protections for their increasing censorship. While the Trump admin has done nothing to address that censorship or to even clip their wings at all.

I don’t mean to be a Debbie Downer, but sometimes taking a cold hard look at what is really being done by our government is a worthy exercise.


50 posted on 12/08/2018 2:42:26 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: familyop

PS Don’t get me wrong, we are much the better off to be out of TPP and the Paris climate change monstrosity, for example. But increasingly it looks to me like the Trump admin is in check for other than the minor, controlled opposition swing to slightly to the right that is allowed from time to time as part of the kabuki.


52 posted on 12/08/2018 2:45:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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