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Why Putin’s Game Of Russian Roulette With Ukraine Is A Big Deal
The Federalist ^ | November 27 2018 | Douglas V. Mastriano

Posted on 11/29/2018 4:07:00 AM PST by tlozo

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Douglas V. Mastriano is a retired U.S. Army colonel and a veteran of the Cold War, Desert Storm, and Afghanistan. He has a PhD in history and four master’s degrees. He wrote an award-winning book on Sgt. Alvin York and led two major studies on Russia’s growing threat to the Baltic nations
1 posted on 11/29/2018 4:07:00 AM PST by tlozo
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During the 2008 campaign after Russian invasion of Georgia Sarah Palin said that should Obama be elected then Russia will invade Ukraine next. All sorts of pundits called her statement stupid.


2 posted on 11/29/2018 4:13:33 AM PST by Krosan
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There is a dangerous brinksmanship being carried out here. It appeared that in the next election a leader not favorable to Putin would be elected. But this action gave a leader more favorable to Putin absolute power. I suspect the “crisis” will last past the next election and then be resolved. The “correct” politician will get credit. Relations will be restored...or, something like them will appear to be restored. (Or, that was probably the plan...)

However, as in any battle plan, it will not survive first contact. Already, reactions are occurring worldwide that do not appear to have been factored in.


3 posted on 11/29/2018 4:23:25 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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On the table, sending Nato ships to the area.

Also, just developing, do not allow Russian navy ships through the Bosphorus Strait (that’s where Turkey is). Unfortunately, I don’t know if Turkey can be trusted or would do this. They could be another deal maker though.


4 posted on 11/29/2018 4:23:48 AM PST by BeadCounter
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Putin can be stopped in Ukraine, and if he is stopped there, we will have averted a global war

This is a tremendous piece. But I must say: that last statement is far too ambitious. Why? Because it involves the conundrum of prevention. Prevention, after all, is the second-most thankless job in the universe (for the very fact that the thing that was "prevented" cannot be proven to have been intended in the first place; indeed, the "preventer" is the one blamed with being a provocateur).

5 posted on 11/29/2018 4:27:52 AM PST by Migraine
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Who cares. All Russia anyway.

Yeah we should posture, but ultimately stay the hell out of it.
Get out of Afghanistan too. Commie Obammie did what Bush didn’t …too busy fighting daddy’s battles.


6 posted on 11/29/2018 4:48:56 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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On the table, sending Nato ships to the area.

Sorry: a clear violation of the Montreux Convention of 1936. Russia would be justified in sinking any such ships, and she probably would.

7 posted on 11/29/2018 4:51:52 AM PST by John Locke
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Meanwhile, while all this has been going on, the press prattled on promoting bullschnitt like faggotry in the military and the importance of skin color.


8 posted on 11/29/2018 4:55:37 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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On the table, sending Nato ships to the area.

Also on the table: Removing that smelly diaper of a corrupt oligarch Poroshenko from office, and getting the heat turned back on in Kiev.

Which one will have a greater impact on the average Ukrainian...NATO posturing or a new President?

Oh I forgot...you chickenhawks couldn't give a flip about the day to day concerns of the average Ukrainian.

Pffft.

9 posted on 11/29/2018 5:15:08 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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Surprised to not see many more severe attacks on soft targets inside russia.
From former Soviet countries russia stole from bullied and murdered.
Eastern europeans, muslim countries they’bullied. Etc.
Russians are responsible for lots of killings.
Just surprised so few retributions?


10 posted on 11/29/2018 5:29:05 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Criminals at F.B.I., Justice Dept, I.R.S and No one taken out in cuffs? Federal gub mint is crappola)
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NATO should not have expanded its alliance east of Poland. The United States should not have supported the overthrow of the pro-Moscow Ukrainian government. Even as the nations of Western Europe, not to mention the United States, are threatened by moral decadence such as the “gay agenda”, rampant radical feminism, and the presence of millions of unassimilable Muslim and Third World invaders, many of whom are military age men, they take on Russia, a nation that, while suffering from economic problems in the wake of the fall of Communism, is not subverted by the same decadence that plagues the West.


Ukraine and the Baltic States have been part of the Russian sphere of influence for centuries. Russia has had a fear of being surrounded and later invaded. While they defeated Charles XII, Napoleon, and Hitler, it was at a tremendous cost of lives.


These provocations were largely done by the Obama administration. It is time for Trump to repair his predecessor’s mistakes by staying out of disputes between Ukraine and Russia.

11 posted on 11/29/2018 5:46:33 AM PST by Wallace T.
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Thank God President Ronald Reagan didn't believe in a Russian(Soviet) sphere of influence.

“Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God’s children.”

Reagan

12 posted on 11/29/2018 5:58:20 AM PST by tlozo
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The false dichotomy of isolation and interventionism will be argued once again. Just remember, if Trump chooses isolationism or interventionism he is wrong according to his many enemies, and it's going to lead to WWIII. The correct choice is to engage as he has all along, staying skeptical of all grandiose claims of righteousness (many of them expressed on this forum).

Yes, there is specific evidence of Russian stupidity over the years, including arming the idiots who shot down the plane, attacking the Ukranian power grid (ineffectively), etc. On their part the Ukranians probably violated international rules by threatening the Russian bridge with armed vessels and they are forever stuck in the past whining about an "illegal" bridge and Holodomor (sp?).

I take the side of sanctions on Russia, but proportional to the interests at stake which are narrow, namely keeping Russia from further advancing into neighbors.

13 posted on 11/29/2018 6:07:03 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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Reagan knew when to hold and when to fold: Lebanon, for example. Our Founding Fathers and the Presidents of the 18th and 19th Centuries also held that freedom was God-given. Yet the United States intervened militarily only when, as with the Barbary pirates or the British, our economic interest, specifically foreign commerce, was involved.
14 posted on 11/29/2018 6:13:07 AM PST by Wallace T.
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Part of the Ukraine has been put under martial law. This is because over the last two years Russia has been building arms along the border. It appears a major conflict is coming. Not much mention in the US press, they are worthless as usual.


15 posted on 11/29/2018 6:18:03 AM PST by Dennis M.
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Russia will be Muslim majority by 2050. That’s for your moral high-horse and that is per the Russian press.


16 posted on 11/29/2018 6:25:07 AM PST by BeadCounter
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This article is so much BS it's not even worth reading. First Ukraine started this latest incident under orders from Porkyshenko.

Concerning Crimea it still would be part of Ukraine if they didn't pull off that Euromaidan Coup. And 95% of Crimeans approved on the Russian takeover.

The author clearing has a anti-Russian agenda.

17 posted on 11/29/2018 6:25:42 AM PST by McGruff
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Idiot, I’ve had it with your name calling. Russia is going to be Muslim majority by 2050 and that is from Russia’s own press, TASS so remember that Putin-troll.


18 posted on 11/29/2018 6:26:46 AM PST by BeadCounter
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Cite your proof. You don’t have any. Now, all the crap dumping from the Putin Trolls, Mac Truck and you. Russia has no free press so why should we trust them. What a joke. Ukraine started this.


19 posted on 11/29/2018 6:28:13 AM PST by BeadCounter
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Yeah, I’m reading, doesn’t sound like it is a violation one bit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits


20 posted on 11/29/2018 6:29:56 AM PST by BeadCounter
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