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To: Magnatron
Most Native American in Oklahoma were transplants from the east. So they didn’t “own” the land to begin with.

Whatever. If they have a treaty, the US should honor it.

Since the RATs violated the original treaty, they should give them back all the Cherokee land in Tennesee, Georgia, North Carolina and Alabama as well.

Andrew Jackass marched 13,000 Cherokees from there to Oklahoma in the shameful "Trail of Tears"....4000 died from exposure, marching barefoot in an exceptionally cold winter.

Before forced relocation, the Cherokee Nation was a very advanced culture, having a written language and even a newspaper.

37 posted on 11/29/2018 5:18:48 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I believe the federal government took part of the Cherokee lands in Indian Territory from them to punish them for siding with the Confederacy in the War Between the States.


39 posted on 11/29/2018 6:14:01 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Before forced relocation, the Cherokee Nation was a very advanced culture, having a written language and even a newspaper.


Yes, they had decided to emulate many of the white man’s ways. It was said that if you rode into a Cherokee village, except for the people and clothes, it looked just like a white village. The biggest problem was the discovery of gold on their land. That meant they simply must have to go. And when Jackson ordered their removal, they did what any red-blooded American would do—they took him to court. And won. Jackson simply ignored the Supreme Court’s ruling.


45 posted on 11/29/2018 7:11:45 AM PST by hanamizu
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***”Trail of Tears”....4000 died from exposure,***

Nonsense. An inflated figure to make whitey feel bad.

400 is more like it, and that was too many deaths.

https://newsok.com/article/2217279/trail-of-tears-death-toll-myths-dispelled


54 posted on 11/29/2018 7:46:07 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The US should not honor it now. There are no Cherokees alive today that had their land taken that way, there are no US authorities alive today that took it. At this point to change the ownership of that land would create chaos. It would spread to every state and tribe. There were many treaties that were broken on both sides with many tribes. That is all water under the bridge and going back now to do anything about it is nonsense.

People used to start countries by conquering other people, that is how it once worked. Native Americans conquered each other for better areas to live, or hunt. In many cases we did acquire the land by trade, purchase, agreement. As was done all over. Who is going to research the land further back to find the supposed actual owners and find their descendants? How far do we go? We have DNA now so I guess we could look for descendants of the earliest known group in each area and give all the land to them. Of course we would have to repeat that every time there is proof of earlier inhabitants.

Are you willing to just give up your home? Wherever it is there were people before you there that claimed that same land.

This is all craziness...every inch of land that is owned in the world was once owned by others. I am sure the descendants of those that came before would love to be able to get that land back but really?

What really needs to happen is Native Americans, and African Americans need to just become Americans. Time for them to assimilate and not worry about what happened to their ancestors. As much as I love history I disagree with getting mired in it today. We need to move forward and deal with today’s issues, we have plenty of them to deal with.


67 posted on 11/29/2018 10:18:29 PM PST by Tammy8
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