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Florida Media Is Adjusting Recount Expectations Downward
The Revolutionary Act ^ | 11/12/18

Posted on 11/12/2018 8:01:22 AM PST by Liberty7732

Several major Florida media outlets are running stories today explaining that the likelihood of the contentious Florida election recount changing the results of Tuesday’s elections are very small. That is good news for Republicans, bad news for Democrats, on a couple of fronts.

The state's largest paper, the Tampa Bay Times, reported:

"...a recount that reverses an initial margin of more than a few hundred votes would be unprecedented in the recent history of American elections.

According to an analysis by the nonpartisan group FairVote, which advocates for electoral reforms that make it easier to vote, out of 4,687 statewide general elections between 2000 and 2016, just 26 went to a recount. Of those 26, just three recounts wound up changing the initial result of the race: The 2004 Washington governor's race, the 2006 Vermont state auditor's race and the 2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate race. The average swing in those three elections after the recounts? About 311 votes."

The state’s second largest newspaper, the Miami Herald, ran essentially the same story and statistics. Expect more to follow.

Remember, Republican Gov. Rick Scott has a 12,500-vote lead over Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson and Republican Congressman Ron DeSantis has a 34,000-vote lead over Democrat Andrew Gillum in the governor's race after official tallies were in. While those are tiny leads in such a big state, they're huge leads for a recount.

For a recount that does not find a major “error” or corrupted system (Broward County?) there is nothing remotely suggesting that this week’s recount will do more than change a few hundred votes. But even if it changes a few thousand votes, the results would still remain the same.

The difference between this time and 2000 in Florida — and the 2008 Minnesota race for U.S. Senator — is that the margins now are much larger and there are no more votes being added to the total. The uproar raised by Republicans and Republican lawyers to stop Broward and Palm Beach counties from continuing to “find” votes well past the legal deadline were successful in both the courts and the eyes of the public.

So unless some court wrangling and a liberal judge allows Broward to manufacture some more Democrat votes — yes, that sounds cynical but it’s pretty hard not to be — then these are the vote totals. The recount will just find anomalies.

That’s why Gillum was in church Sunday politicking away and demanding every vote be counted, because he knows without more votes added to the total, the recount won’t give him the election.

The fact that the media is running these stories this Monday morning is also an important sign. Their readership is heavily Democratic for obvious reasons, and this acts to adjust expectations as those reporters who actually understand Florida voting laws and history realize the chances of changing the outcome of the two big races are very tiny.

If the recount does maintain these results, the left will still fly into hysterics and rage and march and protest and generally throw a tantrum. But they’ve been doing that almost every day since Donald Trump was elected president anyway.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; fl2018
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To: gcparent

There is zero chance she can manufacture enough votes to force a runoff. This is all posturing.


41 posted on 11/12/2018 8:35:19 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight yourr way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
There is zero chance she can manufacture enough votes to force a runoff. This is all posturing.

Posturing is a nice way to say throwing a juvenile temper tantrum because she LOST and the voters were wrong.

42 posted on 11/12/2018 8:37:20 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

All States must do this.

Could voter fraud in a Federal Election become a Federal felony charge? Imagine the impact. It would stop this if they were all hunted down and deported if illegal and put in jail for a felony if citizens. People would think twice about this, the word would get out.


43 posted on 11/12/2018 8:38:28 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Liberty7732

They(Dems) will still claim the election illegitimate.


44 posted on 11/12/2018 8:42:03 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Texas Fossil

I dare say I encountered more resistance when I went to vote from two Black Lives Matter-type poll watchers than ANY illegal ever does.


45 posted on 11/12/2018 8:45:19 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SES1066

Yes, thanks. Forgot about him. This was definitely one of Marco’s best moments.


46 posted on 11/12/2018 8:45:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Texas Fossil

Scott had the chance to get rid of Brenda Spikes after she was found guilty in a court of law of destroying ballots in spite of a court order to preserve them. In that race she got Debbie PakMan Schultz elected with fraud and everybody in Florida knew it. Instead of removing her from office, he had 2 election observers assigned to Broward County.....2 observers...that’s it!

People are finding ballot boxes all over the county...in rental cars...in back rooms...in hallways
People have videos of election workers pulling boxes of ballots out of their trunks with no law enforcement present.
And dozens more strange events!

But he put 2 observers there ans guess what...they say they haven’t seen a thing:)

If I was DeSantis and the GOP Agriculture Secretary guy I would be pretty pissed at Scott right now...Ag Sec is a big deal in Florida; a very powerful position.
Scott has put the whole political backbone of Florida at risk.


47 posted on 11/12/2018 8:51:35 AM PST by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“This was definitely one of Marco’s best moments.”

I wouldn’t heap too much praise on Marco...what he is doing is totally self serving...he knows he needs a strong Florida GOP party, infrastructure and party money if he wants to look for a higher office down the road.


48 posted on 11/12/2018 8:55:58 AM PST by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: thoughtomator
"We need a full-spectrum, nationwide rooting-out of Democrat election corruption. And we need it now because they will steal everything next cycle if they are not stopped immediately."

One thought that was obvious last time.

49 posted on 11/12/2018 9:21:37 AM PST by OKSooner (Whatever happened to, "The midterms are safe."? - We know who the anon(s) are who told us that.)
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To: Liberty7732
"The difference between this time and 2000 in Florida — and the 2008 Minnesota race for U.S. Senator — is that the margins now are much larger and there are no more votes being added to the total."

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. "No more votes being added ..."?

50 posted on 11/12/2018 9:56:43 AM PST by ImpBill (Conservative little "l" libertarian)
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To: Texas Fossil

While I totally agree with what you postulate, I hope you aren’t holding your breath for that to happen. I know I am not.


51 posted on 11/12/2018 9:58:13 AM PST by ImpBill (Conservative little "l" libertarian)
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To: Liberty7732
I won't be comfortable till both are officially certified winners
52 posted on 11/12/2018 9:58:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: dfwgator

53 posted on 11/12/2018 9:59:47 AM PST by yoe (A vote for the Left is a vote against YOUR Constitution, open borders, higher taxes, more government)
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To: ImpBill

Well, the state of Texas has done exactly that. You should hear the whines of those caught in it. On voted in 4 or 6 counties all in the same election cycle and was not even a citizen. She was deported. The left went crazy (their normal state).


54 posted on 11/12/2018 10:36:03 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It is called voter intimidation.

Yes, BLM “types” are know to try to scare whitie. At times the even resort to violence and it seems nothing is ever done.

If the real confrontations begin, they will lose.


55 posted on 11/12/2018 10:39:53 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Flick Lives

All Georgia counties have to certify their votes by 5pm tomorrow.

https://www.albanyherald.com/news/local/crittenden-counties-must-certify-election-results-by-p-m-on/article_b72742d0-347f-500e-97e3-cce97c4956ee.html


56 posted on 11/12/2018 11:46:11 AM PST by Conserv (Did)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes.

People tend to take note when a sitting US Senator(Rubio) is shouting about voter fraud/willful noncompliance of state election laws.


57 posted on 11/12/2018 11:53:54 AM PST by Conserv (Did)
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To: Liberty7732

It would be encouraging if Florida would seize everything and find out what is really inside those counting rooms. How many more ballots do they have than were originally reported? How many dead voted? How many precincts reported more votes than they have registered voters?


58 posted on 11/12/2018 11:55:55 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after rain had started falling.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I know well the mindset. I lived for 10 years as south as you can get in the Rio Grande Valley.


59 posted on 11/12/2018 9:07:59 PM PST by ImpBill (Conservative little "l" libertarian)
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