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To: vg0va3

“Birtherism” is the greatest Alinsky ever perpetrated. Those who use the term assist in the denigration of the Constitution
They have gotten the American people to reject one of the most valuable safeguards bequeathed to us by the founders.
The natural born citizen clause served us well until we allowed it to be ignored.
Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.

It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii if his father was a foreign national.
Children of foreign nationals inherit the nationality of their foreign national parent(s).
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
People born with divided loyalties, allegiance and citizenship are not naturally Americans.
The children of foreign nationals are precisely who the founders were excluding from the office.
Only when one cannot be anything else can one be a natural born citizen.

No foreign birth.
No foreign parent(s)
No foreign citizenship(s)
No foreign influence on the Presidency is what John Jay stated in a letter to George Washington as the reason for insisting on a natural born citizen.

Obama told us he was born a British subject.

Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?

Who believes they would have thought the recently deceased King of Thailand was eligible to be President?
He was born in Cambridge MA.

Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Churchill is eligible.

The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley, George P. Bush and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.

The truth of the Kenyanesian Usurpation will never see the light of day because both parties cooperated in the violation of the Constitution


10 posted on 11/09/2018 9:06:38 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
“Birtherism” is the greatest Alinsky ever perpetrated. Those who use the term assist in the denigration of the Constitution

Spot on!

16 posted on 11/09/2018 9:12:28 AM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It doesn’t even matter if Obama was technically qualified to run for president. What matters is the spirit of the “natural-born citizen” clause. It was placed in the Constitution to make sure that we never had a president who wasn’t 100% loyal to America. Obama was demonstrably a globalist, he therefore had divided loyalties.


17 posted on 11/09/2018 9:12:48 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw
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To: Lurkinanloomin

You got that right. Perfect summary. Obama was a fraud from Day 1.


22 posted on 11/09/2018 9:17:48 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Barry is a citizen.

B-day paper lists no father.(Or stooge from Kenya)

Frankie did it. Frankie was a commie, but a citizen.

Time to make commies deported again. (Charlie Chaplin gone and forgotten )


28 posted on 11/09/2018 9:25:37 AM PST by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Obama told us he was born a British subject.


Citation please.

Not doubting per se. Just would like to have a solid reference in case I ever use this info.


30 posted on 11/09/2018 9:27:34 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Lurkinanloomin

A natural born citizen is someone who cannot be anything else.

Obama could be citizen of Indonesia, Kenya, GB, etc...

Who knows... without a REAL birth certificate.

I am a computer software engineer- I have done imaging software that has been validated by the military - I could be called into court as an expert witness.

HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS FAKE I GUARANTEE IT 100%.

Everything you’ve read about font sizes, security paper, line alignment, centering, curved paper, binary-vs-greyscale are all correct.

The BULL$H!T about ‘OCR’ is false (and ridiculous)


36 posted on 11/09/2018 9:34:25 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I agree, the founding fathers intended that no one with a disputed birth, or with divided loyalties, could become POTUS. Natural Born Citizen was a term used by Vattel, in “Law of Nations”. EVERY SINGLE MAJOR PLAYER involved with the writing of the Constitution read his work. It was checked out from the NYC library (was no library of congress at that time) and they knew what it meant. English Common law WAS NOT USED to create the Constitution, because our founding fathers had all risked death at the hands of the British.


45 posted on 11/09/2018 9:42:07 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The Left has some major political advantages over the Right, that are extremely difficult to overcome:

First and foremost is that they are entirely comfortable with the idea of deceiving and duping their constituency. This gives them leeway to do and say anything at all; no holds barred.

Next is the fact that they corner the market on the ultimate political strategy: wealth redistribution. Essentially, their appeal is as follows: vote for us and we will give you other people’s money. How can anyone top that?

Finally, they have the second law of thermodynamics working in their favor - it takes more energy to build than to destroy. The corollary: it is far easier to divide and destroy than to unite and build.

With this trifecta, the Left runs circles around the right - but we do have one thing in our favor: our agenda is in concert with the forces of nature. Truth is on our side - I’m not talking about religious truth, but rather the truth about how things work. Our plans succeed whereas the Left’s plans always fail. They eventually shoot themselves in the foot.

They adopt politically expedient “truths” that are not true, like that your gender is whatever you wish it to be. Or that individuals should serve the collective. Or that man has screwed up Earth’s climate. Or that Nationalism is racist. Or that gun free zones make people safer.

Since their ‘facts’ are not true, reality eventually comes around and bites them in the ass.

Unfortunately, as we learn from their mistakes, they continue to make new mistakes, and we all must suffer the consequences.


61 posted on 11/09/2018 10:58:35 AM PST by enumerated
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Lots of people talked about the murkiness of Obama’s birth but while the media was able to mock everyone they were unable to, or afraid to, mock Trump.

That said, I have never believed the that Obama was born in Kenya. I think he was born in Hawaii. But I do think there is a lot of murkiness about the details. For example, I do believe that his long form birth certificate, the one that showed up after Trump made all that noise, was a forgery because it was so flawed and the pdf was filled with so many layers. So why did it have to be forged? Maybe his mother hated the “system” so much that she walked out of the Honolulu hospital before the recorders came in with the BC forms.

As for his ineligibility to be POTUS, I think it rests on only two speculative possibilities. First, US law in the early 60s conferred the citizenship of an American mother only if she was 19 or older; Stanley Ann Dunham was only 18 when BO was born. Second, and this is even more wildly speculative, Dunham was a communist and hated her country. So it’s entirely possible that she renounced her citizenship, and the citizenship of her son Barack, when she married that Indonesian.

So Barack returns to the USA because his mother was a nut job. He was legally not an American anymore; there are rumors that he was on an international student scholarship at Occidental and he traveled to Pakistan at a time when such was forbidden to Americans, meaning he needed a foreign passport.

Young Barack feels like an American; he might as well be an American; but everything is all messed up through no fault of his own. But he kind of likes being “foreign” too because it fits with his mixed race background and has certain advantages; for example, with only an Indonesian passport he doesn’t need to register for the draft at 18, which fits his personal politics, inherited from his mother!

I could say more but I’ll leave it here. For those of you who disagree, flame away!


64 posted on 11/09/2018 11:16:03 AM PST by tom h
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Obama was born in Hawaii- e just lied about it and claimed he was foreign in college, perhaps to cover up his uncool white upbringing and ignorance of American black culture, and to get bennies and attention in college.


66 posted on 11/09/2018 11:28:32 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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