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Posted on 10/30/2018 2:48:25 AM PDT by be-baw
Great. It will come down to a legal challenge thru SCOTUS. It would have been better if Congress had passed a law eliminating birthright citizenship, which would then be challenged legally.
My fear is that SCOTUS will rule against the Executive Order on process grounds and defer the decision to Congress without resolving it legallly. In any event, this will eventually determine if a Constitutional amendment is needed or not.
get-r-done!
“It would have been better if Congress had passed a law eliminating birthright citizenship, which would then be challenged legally.”
Why? There was never a law passed granting illegals citizenship and why would you want the courts to have the final say? Bizarre
He does that and the “immigration problems” in the US are solved the moment he finishes the, P, in Trump.
It’d be a dream come true if he made it retroactive about 18 years. Be an absolute fantasy come true if he made it retroactive October 3, 1993.
Interestingly, the Left/MSM/Liberals/Democrats never had any issues with the last president using EOs to try and push his agenda, as we all know.
And now.....And it will set off another stand-off with the courts, as Trump’s power to do this through executive action is debatable to say the least.
Someone correct me, if needed, but didn’t SCOTUS just affirm that the Executive Branch has control over such things?
I was always told an illegal alien or anyone visiting from a foreign country (NOT A US Citizen) is NOT subject to jurisprudence of the United States. They are subject to the jurisprudence to the countries they are from. If your on vacation in France and you wife has her baby, it is NOT a French citizen. You are citizens of the United States therefore the child is American.
There are over 30 countries that have birthright citizenship thru jus solis. Mexico is one of them. So is Canada. Ireland was the last European country to have it and it eliminated it thru a constitutional amendment.
If you want to call the law built up around that war manual a religion.
Germany may offer the child citizenship, but as a child born overseas to a family on official duty, she is a native born natural US citizen.
The US does not recognize duality. Either you are a US citizen or you are not.
It also depends on where the child was born- if in a US military hospital on US installation, then Germany has no record of her birth, if in a German facility attended by a German physician, then she indeed may have a German BC, but that BC will specify the citizenship of her parents. If the latter, the parents needed to file ( the hospital probably did I while they were there) a form to the US Embassy reporting the “birth of a US Child abroad”, beginning the US State issuance of a BC.
My son was born in a similar situation, but in a US facility, he searched the German records for any reference to his birth in West Germany, there is none. He is a US citizen naturally, by virtue of our official duty there. He has a US State Department BC.
Is it me or did this guy just lose his own argument?
The Supreme Court has already ruled that children born to immigrants who are legal permanent residents have citizenship.
I didn’t think that was ever an issue, since the parents are in the US legally. It is the kids that are born to parents in the country illegally that are the issue. For example, all the pregnant, or soon to be pregnant, women in the zombie caravan from Honduras, who can’t wait to pop out a kid in an American hospital. The case the Left points to is the late 1800s and if I’m not mistaken, the parents were in the country legally.
This is HUGE. The biggest gift to the country in a generation. No doubt it goes to the SC. I don’t trust Roberts he is compromised. This is great but l fear another betrayel from him.
Please do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its time for Scotus to lay down the law!
Birthright citizenship still exists until the existing laws are changed. We grant citizenship to the 300,000 children born to illegal aliens every year. They are entitled to all the benefits of citizenship, including US passports. This has been the practice for over 100 years.
That will be the issue for the court or congress.
Can they forced to serve in our military? Enlisted maybe. can they vote in our elections? Sorry, everyone has a law abiding responsibility wherever they are.
The best part of waking up,
Is Donald Trump with a thump.
The whining and gnashing of teeth from the Left will be epic!
I doubt an executive order will pass muster, Congress probably needs to act, but it's a good start.
“I didn’t think that was ever an issue, since the parents are in the US legally.”
It is an issue because the 14th was clear. The author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment was crystal clear. It didn’t include foreigners or aliens. Whether here legally or illegally.
The court, through wong kim ark, made children born to foreign nationals, who were legally here, U.S. citizens at birth. So those children are court created citizens. CINOS. Citizens in name only, since only congress can naturalize citizens.
MAGA
There isn’t a law making them citizens. You’ve never understood that for some unknown reason.
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