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The Electoral College Debate
Townhall.com ^ | October 17, 2018 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 10/17/2018 6:41:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Yes, our LEFTist public educrats at work. Abolish the Dept. of (mis)Education! How many go on and on about how the US Constitution was fatally flawed because it only counted slaves as 3/5s of a voter. We graduate functional illeterates from the Ivy League elite colleges who cannot understand the difference between rights, privileges and duties.

When the Democrats and LEFTists (but I repeat myself!) rant about winning the popular vote, I so dearly want to grab them to say that everybody knew the RULES BEFORE the ELECTION, your complaints are the equivalent of a baby’s tantrum!


21 posted on 10/17/2018 7:07:48 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Kaslin

Eliminating the Electoral College would completely disenfranchise and silence every rural voter in the US. This is still 49% of the population in this country who would lose all power of the vote.

This would be City ideology completely exterminating Country ideology through discrimination against ALL rural cultures and races. This would be one of the largest criminal acts that could ever be committed in this country period.


22 posted on 10/17/2018 7:13:55 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Kaslin

Fortunately for us, the founders put the electoral college in the constitution. That means that in order to ‘abolish’ it would take a constitutional amendment which would have to be proposed and voted on by 2/3 of the Congress or 2/3rds of the states calling a constitutional convention. Then it would have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states.

In other words, many of the same small states would have to vote against their interests. It’s not going to happen.

We should be going the other way and becoming more of a republic. Repeal the 17th amendment, let the state legislatures go back to selecting Senators. The Congress was originally set up to be made up of the people’s interests (the house) and the state’s interests (the senate). We could move away from factionalism imo.


23 posted on 10/17/2018 7:22:33 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: LouieFisk

And that was a major mistake.


24 posted on 10/17/2018 7:22:55 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: Kaslin

You can’t “win” that which doesn’t exist.

There’s a reason our states are called “sovereign” and the smaller states (which out-number the large ones), aren’t about to give up their sovereignty.

This is a ‘fundamental transformation’ that’s not going to happen.


25 posted on 10/17/2018 7:23:05 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Stop The Madness. Do Not Respond To Vanity Posts.)
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To: ErikJohnsky

We are a Constitutional Republic.

Webster’s

“a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law”

The problem is the people we elect to represent us get to congress and forget where they came from and who they represent... They go rogue and back-stab those who’s ideology they are supposed to represent.


26 posted on 10/17/2018 7:25:18 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Vermont Lt

It is a useless debate. It’s not going anywhere.

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Normally, I’d agree. But we should never underestimate the ability of the Left to undo normalcy or tradition.


27 posted on 10/17/2018 7:25:34 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Kaslin

The states have been transformed into mere administrative distress of fedzilla.


28 posted on 10/17/2018 7:25:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: ErikJohnsky

No, it is a Constitutional Republic. The rats want it to be a democracy, which would be accomplished by circumventing the Electoral College. If not outright abolished, the unconstitutional multi-state compact would do the same thing.


29 posted on 10/17/2018 7:30:20 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: Kaslin

Democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, seeking to represent New York’s 14th Congressional District, has called for the abolition of the Electoral College.

She is so stupid she needs pre-printed instructions to live...breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out. Pathetic.


30 posted on 10/17/2018 7:37:02 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Kaslin
court appointments made by presidents who lost the popular vote

Nobody has ever "lost" the popular vote because nobody ever campaigned to win the popular vote.

You can't win or lose a game that nobody is playing.

31 posted on 10/17/2018 7:40:00 AM PDT by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 https://twitter.com/TheRealDrew68)
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To: Iron Munro

Very well done, sir. Thank you.


32 posted on 10/17/2018 7:44:59 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Kaslin
Hillary Clinton has long been a critic of the Electoral College. Just recently, she wrote in The Atlantic, "You won't be surprised to hear that I passionately believe it's time to abolish the Electoral College."

She wasn't complaining about the Electoral College two years ago. From a September 26, 2016 CNN article, "State of the Race: Why Hillary Clinton has an edge:"

"Clinton also continues to enjoy an even bigger advantage in amassing the 270 electoral votes necessary to win the election. Since 1992, Democrats have had a significant structural advantage in the Electoral College and 2016 looks to be no different."
33 posted on 10/17/2018 7:55:46 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: Drew68

In 1962, the world series was won by NY Yankees 4 games to 3 over the Giants.

However, if you add up all the scoring, it was Giants 21, Yankees 20. Should we now declare the Giants the “real” winner?


34 posted on 10/17/2018 7:57:47 AM PDT by JohnEBoy
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To: Kaslin

Chicago runs Illinois, Detroit runs Michigan, NYC runs New York, Baltimore and a couple DC counties run Maryland, LA and SF run California.

Those are all the result of the popular vote. Electoral College was a stroke of absolute genius.


35 posted on 10/17/2018 8:01:06 AM PDT by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: NonValueAdded


36 posted on 10/17/2018 8:02:25 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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To: SaxxonWoods

This transformation has already taken place. It’s called deficit spending. The guarantee of a Republican form of government is not there when you are born into debt from those whom you were not able to cast a vote for or against. In a Republican form of government, you elect someone to represent your interest at the big table where all of the decisions are made. No one can say they represent people who do not yet exist. Yet, here we are spending these non-existent people’s money and leaving THEM with the bill. Unconstitutional.


37 posted on 10/17/2018 8:05:29 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Kaslin

There is no debate.
Eliminate Electoral College = Elimination union of states.

We won’t stand for one county out-voting entire states.


38 posted on 10/17/2018 8:09:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Kaslin
I recall reading that in the 1950s Congress made a serious study of the possibility of getting rid of the electoral college and ended up deciding we are better off with it. For one thing, the current system keeps the two-party system alive at the state level. Even a small state can matter in a close election. Bush carried New Hampshire by about 7,000 votes in 2000--without New Hampshire's electoral votes he would have lost the election.

Hillary can claim to have won the popular vote all she wants, but still 52% of the public voted against her.

39 posted on 10/17/2018 8:22:34 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin

There is no debate.


40 posted on 10/17/2018 8:23:35 AM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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