Mississippi Coast following Hurricane Camille, 1969 Source: noaa
Ah, but I repeat myself: It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to pound your keyboard and prove you are a fool.
Posted on 10/11/2018 12:42:19 PM PDT by Red Badger
If you can’t deal with hurricanes, don’t live in Florida or other hurricane prone states.
Global warming/climate change has NOTHING to do with it.
More importantly, there is NOTHING we could do about it even if we wanted to.
Man can do NOTHING about “global” climate. NOTHING!!!!!!
It is too YUGE, with very complicated and integrated systems that “scientists” barely comprehend.
Lets experiment with changing the weather? /s Sound like a good idea? I mean, what could go wrong with that? /s
OOPS! end of the world, my bad.
“At least two deaths were blamed on Michael, the most powerful hurricane to hit the continental U.S. in over 50 years,”
Not good if it were you or someone you cared about, but seriously, TWO deaths?
“Over 900,000 homes and businesses in Florida, Alabama, Georgia and the Carolinas were without power.”
Lets just keep putting them electric wires on poles.
What is that about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? /s
“”Why people didn’t evacuate...”
Because of the constant HYPING of everything! People just don’t believe it anymore.
Also, the risk factor is very low on an individual basis. Not good if you end up dead, but the chances specifically for you are low (2 dead).
Concrete blocks are very strong in carrying weight. They are very WEAK to lateral forces.
Poured concrete is the only answer. Strong both ways.
Government and media hype caused this.
Hurricane hype is why. We are shown (for dramatic purposes) this YUGE spinning whirlwind with 150 mph winds to make you think it’s ALL like that. When actually only a small area has those winds and they diminish rapidly the farther out from center you get.
Michael was 350 miles in diameter, so a 25 mile path of destruction is imaginable.
I believe poured concrete is all that is allowed on the Island of Bermuda, they know they will get hurricanes.
However, my little second home in Rockport is just a mobile home and garage with bedroom and bath in it. Mobile home was built/installed to code. Garage is just wood frame but overbuilt on code. Both came thru Harvey with only minor shingle damage and I am about 1/2 mile from the water. Got very lucky on falling trees if a couple of them had fallen just 6 more inches the wrong way I would have had significant damage. My wife had to spend lots of time and effort making sure everything was built right contractors will cut corners if you are not careful.
That may be true for wind. But not for surge. Severe surge can happen over 100 miles to the right of landfall. And as the saying goes, the wind will scare you, but it’s the water that will kill you. Sandy had minimal hurricane force winds at landfall. And trashed the coasts all the way up into Long Island from a South Jersey landfall.
There were 83 miles of east-west major commerce thruway Interstate 10 impassable in both directions due to fallen trees. For reference, I-10 is about 50 miles inland from where Michael made landfall. Do the math.
Tell the people living far inland in GA who lost 53 chicken farms, cotton crops, homes damaged by fallen trees, and the 900,000 people who lost electricity in your self-described "only a small area" that had those over-hyped winds damage their livelihood.
Your need to be cynical far exceeds your knowledge and expertise for hurricanes. Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to pound your keyboard and prove it.
Yes and no. Technology has gotten so good at looking inside hurricanes that measurements can be taken in a small part of an eyewall which are then attributed to the entire storm. That couldn't be done 30 years ago.
From what I've seen of Michael damage, I'm inclined to believe that had it been 30 years ago, it might have been rated as a mid-strong Cat 3 or a weak Cat 4. I say this largely because pine trees in the area have not been sheared off as if a ~30 mile scythe blade had swing through.
A true Cat 5 would have sheared the nearby pine forests and left the stumps debarked. All tree stumps would be brown due to having the grey layer of sunbleached wood power washed.
Mississippi Coast following Hurricane Camille, 1969 Source: noaa
Ah, but I repeat myself: It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to pound your keyboard and prove you are a fool.
True! You don't know when those photos were taken, or how far inland they were. Where is HWY 90? You just assumed the caption meant they were on the seashore within days of Camille.
As another poster on this thread mentioned from his/her personal experience, standing trees (non palm) +25 miles from the eyewall of a CAT 5 storm will be defoliated.
I realize we should defer to your Rhode Island hurricane expertise. Nuttier than a fruitcake.
Keep on. Don't let up! LOL!
Except Michael was nowhere near as strong as Camille. 155mph is a lot less than 190mph. Like all the downcasters here, you love to compare apples to oranges instead of examining the facts of the ground.
Just because you haven't seen such pics, it doesn't mean they are not out there. I have seen countless pictures of that level of tree damage - including large pine trees bent at 90 degrees to upright. You can even see the track of the eye from space like a tornado track in a Kansas field.
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