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Why America Is So Scared of China’s Biggest Tech Company
Bloomberg | March 22, 2018, 3:00 AM CDT | Max Chafkin and Joshua Brustein

Posted on 10/04/2018 10:53:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: ConservativeMind
Idiot, I was a SOX auditor for years for multiple companies.

Like I said, you are approaching it from the ACCOUNTING SIDE. I am not. . . LOOK AT THE REST.

I know the accounting side too. Look what the prosecutors did with the legal side!

Do you really think I pulled those Sarbanes Oxley legal case links out of my behind? I certainly did not make them up. None of them had a thing to do with accounting, CM. They had to do with a Federal prosecutor's interpretation of what they could include under SOX. . .and they got convictions. My company was warned by our legal counsel about what SOX meant in the areas of communications and transparency as case law grew to include the sections that were also part of Sarbanes Oxley. . . as the prosecutors interpreted it. Do you really think that fishing boat captain was an officer of the company much less the president? He wasn't. He was a grunt in the company. How about the college ROOMMATE of one of the Boston Bombers. . . brought up on Sarbanes Oxley charges. . . no corporation at all.

In the DOJ v. Apple on the iBooks anti-trust case, the DOJ prosecutor was threatening to invoke SOX due to the claims that the late Steve Jobs and more than one still living Apple officer had made in their statements because they claimed they were deliberately lying about the agency model of sales as opposed to a retail store model of sales with the DOJ claiming there was no such model as the Agency model, despite it being a time honored business model for many businesses including iTunes, Amazon, and consignment sales. SOX again.

These are facts. . . not associated with the ACCOUNTING end of SOX.

21 posted on 10/05/2018 2:58:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: ConservativeMind
I don’t want Apple or Supermicro to be under suspicion in any form. We’ve owned Apple phones for years and will only buy them for the foreseeable future.

If this is fake news, it’s a massively impactful story that will cause major lawsuits.

You and I are in agreement on this. My point exactly. We are not even talking about any of Apple's products here. These companies are being painted with a broad black brush for some ulterior motive yet to be uncovered. Something stinks and it isn't them. To my mind the stench is coming from Bloomberg.

22 posted on 10/05/2018 4:54:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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Yeah because China is not a leader in paranoiac surveillance...

Maybe you should try to prove first you are not a compromised collaborator troll for China


23 posted on 10/05/2018 10:25:54 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JudgemAll; TXnMA; dayglored
Yeah because China is not a leader in paranoiac surveillance...

Maybe you should try to prove first you are not a compromised collaborator troll for China

Bing! bing! bing!. . . we have another Freeper here who believes the Main Stream Media FAKE NEWS SOURCE publisher Bloomberg Businessnews who publishes an article using seventeen completely ANONYMOUS SOURCES, ignores the official people in the government and companies supposedly involved for over three years, and been denying it to Bloomberg for over a year, while the reporters making the absurd claim has ZERO physical evidence such as any photographs of the malicious IC chip in situ, mounted on a motherboard—an easy thing, one would think, to provide IF they existed as claimed. No photos. . . except for a generic grain of rice sized IC perched on someone's finger tip. That's dispositive of anything except the size of a grain of rice size generic IC chip, of which there are hundreds. In the THREE YEARS since Amazon and Apple both supposedly discovered the modified motherboards with the malicious chips, nobody issued a red alert to the companies with the THOUSANDS of Supermicro motherboards installed in critical networks and server farms! Why not??? THREE YEARS, JudgemAll! Answer that. . .

And, after finding a supposedly malicious chip on the company's products, Amazon against all rationality went ahead and bought the company selling the "compromised" servers so they'd own the company supplying the servers for their Amazon Web Service and Amazon Prime (incidentally, the CEO of AWS also released a sworn statement that they can find no malicious chips on any of their servers, AND they have never been approached by anyone from the FBI or any other government agency about such a chip!). . . and, in addition, while according to Bloomberg Apple also discovered the evil chip in the summer of 2015, it's a fact that Apple did not sever their relation with Supermicro until mid-2016, a year later, and in fact purchased 2000 servers from them! That makes no rational sense if Bloomberg's claims are factual. Finally, JudgemAll, no one else can find a Supermicro motherboard with such a malicious chip installed! Trust me, they are looking, HARD! Ergo, they Bloomberg Businessnews claims are FALSE!

YET your approach is to accuse ME of being a "compromised collaborator troll for China"! WOW! How brilliant your style of argument ad hominem is. I bet you're opposed to the Kavanaugh nomination as well. There are about seventeen anonymous witnesses there making allegations without factual evidence too.

24 posted on 10/05/2018 11:13:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

No, I merely switched your arrogant demands for proof despite me bringing evidence while you bring nothing but dangerous feel good speculations about a dangerous country which is about to go kaboom in the world once its growth rate goes below 3%


25 posted on 10/06/2018 2:32:53 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JudgemAll
No, I merely switched your arrogant demands for proof despite me bringing evidence while you bring nothing but dangerous feel good speculations about a dangerous country which is about to go kaboom in the world once its growth rate goes below 3%

Go ahead, you believer in Christine Blasey Fod. Proof? You don’t need any proof for absurd, ridiculous allegations from a PROGRESSIVE FAKE NEWS SOURCE. You just accept it on faith!

26 posted on 10/06/2018 2:56:29 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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