Posted on 10/03/2018 3:56:59 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Uh... I think they make vacuums and stretchers for this very problem.
Condoms; birth control; Hustler...
...but the battery charger is broken.
I have an ex-wife that'll change your mind about that!!!
I...
Must...
Resist!!!
There’s an APP for this...
I mean by this that all the men I have known well enough to know such things about them --- father, brother, boyfriends way back when, husband, sons, and their friends --- have been really decent members of the male class, fulfilling the expectation that they would be decent, reasonable, fit to live with and to love.
And women to match.
That's why society "out there" --- especially the society portrayed in the media we take for truth --- strikes me a so unreal.
I know it';s way-too-real for a lot of people.
? To me it;s bewildering.
I remember as a child seeing the "Family of Man" photography book --- acquired by my very working-class Father at a used-book store, produced by, I think. the NY Metropolitan Museum of Art sometime in the 50's? --- which showed men and women of many colors and cultures in their homes and work environments, and thinking, "They all are wonderful to me."
I dunno, truly. It may partly depend on where you're looking.
"Not tonight. I'm calculating π to a few more decimal points.
Especially as closing time nears...
I see what you did here...
That was my first wife...
14?
What a late bloomer!
I think it’s our age difference.
I’m 47.
The lower the number get in terms of age, the worse it is generally speaking.
Yes, there are some good ones out there, both male and female, but how many, and can they even be found?
I don’t know. I haven’t. Maybe I’m not a good one. I don’t know.
I understood. And there are basic moral expectations by society. And if these moral expectations are not adhered to there are consequences.
Fear of these Consequences is the only thing that keeps this primal urge in check. The more moral a man is only means the better he is at hiding these urges and thoughts because he fears the consequences more than others.
Some are better at this than others, but it is always there and will always need to be released and satisfied at regular intervals. When they cannot find a morally acceptable form of release they are going to find an immoral and sometimes criminal way to release it. But they are going to do it.
There is no such thing as abstinence, This has been a lie and deception for a couple thousand of years now. There always has been and there always will be the biological urge to release even if it is on a personal basis. And as the father of three adult girls I can tell you that it is not just the male of the species.
The primal biological urge to get nasty is in everyone of us, some just hide it better than others because of the consequences that may result if we don’t. Even those who claim to be moral. All the “moral training” is nothing more than becoming good at hiding it based on fear.
I share this reality as a moral and loyal husband for 34 years, the father of three, and the Grandfather of 11. Reality is reality...There ain’t no hiding it.
I stand corrected... 10 is more realistic.
It is short-sighted for you to say this. All you can legitimately say, and be believed, is that there is no such thing as abstinence in your experience and the experience of the people you know well enough to know such a thing about them.
I'll hear you respectfully and believe you are sharing how it looks to you; and in return I expect you to hear me (and others) respectfully and believe we are sharing how it looks to us.
And I'm here to tell you that abstinence does exist, and (to use a word from a more calibrated set of near-synonyms) even sexual continence --- meaning perfect bodily containment of the sexual impulse and its reflexes, alone or with others --- does exist. I won't say "perfect continence" is common or that it's easy: but it exists there on the spectrum just as, on the other extreme, brainless constant promiscuity exists --- talking about a sex impulse as relentless as a SR-16 drum machine.
Years ago I was wryly interested in tales of celibate saints and how they dealt with vehement desire...something I didn't always deal well with. :o/
...I remember the account of St. Francis of Assisi throwing himself into a thorn bush, or running out and rolling in the snow, when he wanted to grab some girl. There was also, if I'm getting this correctly, a memorable incident of St. Thomas Aquinas having his continence challenged by his brothers, who put a prostitute in his room to tempt him out of joining the Dominicans. I recall he chased her out of the room with a stick of burning firewood.
It made me smile to think it was a struggle for them, too.
I never did anything that dramatic, but I did throw myself on the ground from time to time. In private. No Drama Queen stuff.
There definitely are good, decent people who treat others, including their spouse or flame, with consideration and kindness.
I think if you are dating it must be important to give them a warning the second you see a sign of a character flaw. A blatant unkindness. Give them a chance, because sometimes we all can be unkind due to fatigue or preoccupation with other things. If it keeps happening, though, you need to weigh the kindness factor HIGHER than the looks or sexual compatibility or social status or fun level.
Maybe this is the key. Just dont get very attached to people who display repeated callousness. And this selfish unkindness can be found on both genders. I think Chris37 and I stayed way too long with the wrong kind of person.
Maybe I did a while ago, but since such a time I have fallen in love with German Shepherds and spending my time with them, so it’s hard for people to compete with the love of dogs to be perfectly honest.
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