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To: HarleyD; metmom; Lurker

You’ve been on these threads for years and still are surprised that the Church wrote and canonized the scripture and not the other way around?


283 posted on 08/21/2018 4:10:55 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Where exactly did Jesus say his priests should conceal crimes?

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285 posted on 08/21/2018 4:12:16 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: annalex; metmom; boatbums

GOD tells us what is true. All claims to truth must be compared to what the Lord teaches, not any human institution.

If an org teaches contrary to Jesus and the Apostles, it is no church.


287 posted on 08/21/2018 4:18:58 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: annalex; HarleyD; metmom; Lurker
You’ve been on these threads for years and still are surprised that the Church wrote and canonized the scripture and not the other way around?

Yeah we're surprised....because that isn't how history records how we got the canon.

Men, moved by the Spirit, wrote the various books of the Bible we have.

The early ekklesia received these. For the NT....only the 27 were received and accepted by the early church.

And what's really interesting none of the following are in any of those writings:

perpetual virginity of Mary

the Immaculate Conception

Mary recognized as "mother of God"

no admonitions to pray to Mary or rely upon Mary for salvation or answered prayers

no papacy

no clerical celebacy

no Mass as practiced by Rome

no penance

no confidential confessions as practiced by Rome

no priesthood

no mandate to use Latin as the only language for "official" documents of the church

and on and on and on and on......

299 posted on 08/21/2018 4:47:33 PM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: annalex; metmom; Lurker
You’ve been on these threads for years and still are surprised that the Church wrote and canonized the scripture and not the other way around?

Yes, I've heard many Catholics espouse this view. But this is the first time I've ever heard a Catholic say that "the Church does not go by what is and what is not in the Holy Scripture". It certainly gives Catholics an opportunity to make up any religion they want-which seems to be what they have done.

I will add that it is refreshing, if not rather disappointing, to hear a Catholic admit that the Church doesn't accept the Holy Scripture as inspired. My how far they have wander from the early church fathers who revered the scriptures as "God breathed" and "inspired". It only underscore how far the Catholic Church has fallen away from the faith.

I guess it doesn't matter what God says about murder or homosexuality since the Catholic Church can choose to accept or reject it. But at least you still can confess your sins to one another-as if that will do any good.

308 posted on 08/21/2018 5:56:14 PM PDT by HarleyD
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