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Why Can't People Hear What Jordan Peterson Is Saying?
theatlantic.com ^ | 01/22/2018 | Conor Friedersdorf

Posted on 08/14/2018 4:17:43 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: rlmorel

It is or at least was a Psychology fad. When I was in the VA hospital after I got scraped up off the highway I had to do a disability series of “interviews.” One was with a psych. She kept thinking she heard me say something psychopathic. I fed it right back to her, “I think I hear you saying that you want me to fit into one of your boxes,” etc. She got frustrated and gave up. I was NOT looking for disability but because I wound up in a VA hospital instead of the civilian one after I got scraped up off the highway with no insurance card but a DD213(or is that 214? I don’t remember) in my pocket I had to do all that stuff.


41 posted on 08/15/2018 4:05:19 AM PDT by arthurus (y7)
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To: arthurus

A DD-214 IIRC...thanks for serving.

I have always had a deep distrust of psychiatrists and psychologists. Of all the ones I have ever met, they come across to me as raging leftists...and they seem more disturbed than their patients they would treat.

I don’t think I have ever known a conservative one, but the cross section I have encountered personally are only a handful.

OTOH, I know they can serve a purpose for people who really need them. So I don’t want to demonize them.


42 posted on 08/15/2018 4:35:19 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Peterson not only beat her with logic...he beat her with the calm application of it.

Yes, that's the skillful thing!   He never lost his composure.  And then, at one point, his come-back made her temporarily speechless.

At which point, Peterson said, "I gotcha."  LOL!

Peterson is a class act and a highly skilled debater with so many facts at his disposal.  And yet, he doesn't play the Ted Cruz game of talking over the listener's head.  He explains his reasons by pointing to actual research people can look up.

43 posted on 08/15/2018 5:45:41 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LOL!!! Well done, sir!


44 posted on 08/15/2018 9:08:37 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: MeganC

Thanks. I’m glad you got it!


45 posted on 08/15/2018 9:10:39 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: rlmorel
Psychology is a phoney discipline for the most part and it is prone to great and destructive fads. I had some personal experiences with the psychs and knew some more in Gainesville Florida which has probably more psychologists per square foot than anywhere else in the country. The big fad when I lived there in the mid 70s was to "diagnose" any female who felt she needed counseling or psych help as being a repressed lesbian who needed to let her inner dyke roam free. Several acquaintances blew their marriages and one killed herself eventually from this "practice."

The head psych at Santa Fe Community College which was a prestigious institution even as a to year school, Maria was my boss's girlfriend and I saw a lot of her in the jewelery store where I worked. She was a real mess of neuroses herself and sucked in an unbelievable line from the boss, whose last name was, aptly, Nutt, and wound up just barely fending off incarceration after joining him in his mafia dreams. This Phd recipient got off by convincing the jury that she was ignorant and naive.

46 posted on 08/15/2018 12:08:54 PM PDT by arthurus (sj)
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To: rlmorel
I know they can serve a purpose for people who really need them. So I don’t want to demonize them

I will demonize them until the psychopathic cows come home. I have met and dealt with-directly or peripherally a number of them and have reached the conclusion that all those who are not in the employ of private companies for purposes of marketing strategy are frauds. The field is fraudulent, the professors are frauds and students are taught to be frauds. It is purely a racket.

47 posted on 08/15/2018 12:14:21 PM PDT by arthurus (ruet4e)
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To: poconopundit

In a way Peterson reminds me of William F Buckley- unflappable, knows his stuff and is a master of logic.


48 posted on 08/15/2018 12:16:02 PM PDT by arthurus (y)
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To: MeganC

The psychologist’s ploy is, “I think I hear you saying,” used to maneuver the client into one of the psych’s preferred boxes.


49 posted on 08/15/2018 12:18:05 PM PDT by arthurus (ag)
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To: rlmorel

I have spent my life studying the Word, and pursuing truth. Someone like him is more useful to those who have not.

I get more from a thoughtful writer like Lewis or Chesterton.


50 posted on 08/15/2018 1:05:44 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: arthurus

I have to admit I agree with you on this...


51 posted on 08/15/2018 1:17:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: YogicCowboy

I must admit, one of my favorite books is “The Screwtape Letters”!


52 posted on 08/15/2018 1:22:49 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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