Posted on 08/13/2018 12:33:43 PM PDT by servo1969
> Part of that polite society quote involves armed people avoiding bickering, arguing, etc. <
Yep. I was going to post something like that, but you said it better.
People should keep their hands off of other people. Right or wrong, he was the aggressor and has paid with his life.
Yes good question. /s
And keep in mind there have been many cases where people have hit their heads and died from shoves like this.
The fracas started the moment the guy committed Assault and Battery.
The Baby Mama got the ball rolling. What a waste of Life.
There was enough Stupitidy to go around. What if the guy who was shoved to the ground had hit his head on the pavement and died?
Not defending the Shooter, but I wasnt the guy who was Physically Assaulted either. The Authorities made the ultimate decision.
First what evidence do you have this guy was "looking for a fight"?.
"He got shoved down as he deserved."
What law is it again that says you have the right to violently shove someone to the ground if they "deserve it" ?
"But unless the guy attacks, you cannot shoot". Sorry but that's NOT what the law says at all.
That is what the dead guy did....escalate an argument into physical assault. The shooter had every right to defend his life.
That's a common line, but is it really true?
I suspect it assumes that people are well-behaved to begin with and don't want to risk their lives unnecessarily.
That isn't true of all armed people or all armed societies.
So you roll up the window and ignore.
It would only work in a society where people were armed AND laws were enforced.
Big dude assaulted little guy. They don’t show little guy flying backward, bouncing off concrete.
No assault, no problem.
There wouldn’t be a prosecution if the big dude wasn’t black.
The intent of the quote is that armed people know they are armed and thus avoid starting arguments and such.
An armed man walking around with a chip on his shoulder is the bad guy, and is screwing all of our rights.
Numerous episodes of Gunsmoke, The Rifleman, Bonanza, and Wagon Train explain this concept in Shakespearian detail.
This isn't the school playground. This guy was violently assaulted and could have easily been killed by the attacker.
My feeling is he could have held his fire but the way the law reads I think he was justified in the shooting as he easily could have still believed his life was in danger.
The moral to this story is if you escalate a situation into a violent attack you may well get killed in response. The attacker should have kept his hands to himself said his peace to the other guy if he wanted and got in his car a left. If he did he would be alive today but he choose to commit a violent assault and ended up losing his life.
If I were on the jury, the shooter walks. I don't exactly think he had to fire but he was certainly justified in doing so.
Actually, you touch on why I was so confident, after the facts came out, that Martin started the fight with Zimmerman.
I would ask people this simple question: You have two men. One is a short, 30ish pudgy guy with a gun. The other is a tall, lanky guy who gets into fist fights for a hobby and recently lost a scheduled fight.
The two guys confront each other, resulting in a beatdown followed by a shooting. Question: Which guy started the fight?
I saw no evidence that he was "screaming wildly". Even if he was, that doesn't give anyone the right to physically assault him. If I was seated on the jury I would vote not guilty.
The one who "started the fight" is dead and buried.
Shoot whoever you please. No skin off my nose.
He was constantly starting arguments and had displayed the gun before. The store owner tried to have him banned from the property. Yes sport, he was looking for a fight.
If you walk out of the store and find someone arguing and swearing at your wife, yeah he deserved to be knocked on his ass.
Last the law does indeed prohibit shooting an unarmed man who is not attacking you. He can stand there 6 feet away and cuzz, threaten, shake his fist and bow up his chest. If you shoot him, you’re a murderer. That main exception to that is probably a woman, or an elderly person.
Like I said though, go shoot whoever you want. I’ll sip cold coffee as I read about your conviction in the papers.
Didn’t the Sheriff already make a statement in public that it was a SYG case? Call him as a witness.
I’ll have to disagree. They are about 5-6’apart when the shot was fired.
“So you roll up the window and ignore. “
So when you are CCW, you ignore minor transgressions of others and avoid your own personal hall monitor pet peeves. Report them to the police. Maybe they get a ticket, maybe they don’t.
Lots of things led up to this situation. Shooter had a history of doing stupid stuff. I suspect the ‘pusher’ was also not a good boy. Fate had them meet each other at the local stop and stab and this is the end result. This plays out everyday across America.
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