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Florida 'stand your ground' shooter Michael Drejka charged with manslaughter
https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooter-florida-stand-ground-case-charged-manslaughter/story?id=57151343 ^ | 8/13/2018 | BILL HUTCHINSON

Posted on 08/13/2018 9:58:09 AM PDT by dragnet2

The Florida man who invoked the "stand your ground" self-defense after shooting a black man in a dispute over a parking space was charged Monday with manslaughter, officials said.

Michael Drejka, 47, was arrested Monday morning in the fatal shooting in July of Markeis McGlockton in Clearwater, Florida.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; ccw; chl; donotescalate; drejka; florida; floridaman
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To: precisionshootist; Justa
This case was clearly self defense yet this man is facing up to 30 years in prison

Drejka the Poisonous Toad won't last 6 months in General Population.

His little Glock Manhood won't be with him to protect him from the brothers.

He should just off himself now and save everyone time and money.

281 posted on 08/14/2018 10:00:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Willful en Wanton in 33301
which decision the “stand yer grnd” or manslaughter ?

My position on this shooting was clear from the beginning. It's was a bad shoot. In fact, on the initial thread posted at this site, I mentioned early on the shooter seemed like he was looking for trouble. And it now appears he was and he got exactly that.

282 posted on 08/14/2018 10:18:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
If he would have gone straight through the intersection and gone the two blocks to home, instead of spinning a 180 to get off on "confronting" someone in "his" parking space, he wouldn't be facing "brother justice" when he goes to prison.

He should off himself right now.

It'll be more painful in stir...

283 posted on 08/14/2018 10:37:37 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: dragnet2

yup guy was trouble maker, now he can make trouble in Raiford


284 posted on 08/14/2018 10:37:50 AM PDT by Willful en Wanton in 33301
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To: Willful en Wanton in 33301
now he can make trouble in Raiford

"Death, or Bunga-Bunga."

Couldn't happen to a nicer poisonous little Toad...

285 posted on 08/14/2018 10:48:26 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: kiryandil
“Drejka the Poisonous Toad won't last 6 months in General Population. His little Glock Manhood won't be with him to protect him from the brothers. He should just off himself now and save everyone time and money.”

It seems pretty clear you harbor a lot of ill will for someone you’ve never met and only know what has been written about him in a news paper. It’s one thing to advocate for justice if you feel he has violated the law but wishing for him to be assaulted in prison and suggesting he commit suicide is a bit vial and poisonous toadish in my opinion. Just sayin

286 posted on 08/14/2018 10:53:39 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Justa

I just read your homepage.

I was actually checking to see what high-powered law school you attended (that wasn’t intended as a slight!).

Your analysis of Drejka’s actions and apparent motivations were more straight and clear than all the other associated verbiage put together.

Thanks for the comments-—and your great contributions to the nation, as well.


287 posted on 08/14/2018 10:57:30 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: wardaddy

Btw, even in the old west, where the law in many venues was all but non-existent, this would have been seen as cowardly or overkill. And I think most would agree, what really makes it much worse for the shooter in this case, is he clearly appears to have made it his personal duty to play armed enforcer of the law.

He was doing *exactly* what they tell people not to do when in cw mode. Thankfully most who take on that responsibility never behave like this guy did.


288 posted on 08/14/2018 10:58:34 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Willful en Wanton in 33301; dragnet2; precisionshootist; AAABEST; spacejunkie2001; wardaddy
yup guy was trouble maker, now he can make trouble in Raiford

I was thinking that we could start a GoFundMe account for Mikey, and raise $15-20 bucks to buy him a Glock 40 tshirt that he can wear in prison to scare off the other inmates...

289 posted on 08/14/2018 11:06:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: precisionshootist
It’s one thing to advocate for justice if you feel he has violated the law but wishing for him to be assaulted in prison and suggesting he commit suicide is a bit vial and poisonous toadish in my opinion

It's pretty clear what he is (soon to be "was" - past tense)...   smiling face

290 posted on 08/14/2018 11:08:59 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: dragnet2; wardaddy
He was doing *exactly* what they tell people not to do when in cw mode. Thankfully most who take on that responsibility never behave like this guy did.

Drejka the Poisonous Toad needs to be dealt with in a manner that doesn't give the rest of us law-abiding gun owners a black eye.

I'm glad the prosecutors didn't let this simmer any longer.

There's going to be more people coming forward about this guy's little "hobby".

291 posted on 08/14/2018 11:13:31 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Justa
““Well good job to the state of Florida for allowing this DA to put everyone again at risk of prosecution if they are forced to defend themselves.” I hope you’re over reacting. Manslaughter and FL’s self-defense law are pretty exclusive of each other. The State will have to prove a prior and consistent intent to murder and the defense will only want the self-defense shooting evidence to be considered. IMO if all the evidence is considered he’s convicted. If only the shooting video he walks. And I don’t think this imperils FL’s self-defense statute if all the evidence is considered. That should actually raise the bar where self-defense is actually manslaughter. I.e., did a person threaten to ‘blow another person’s head off’ before, did they brandish their weapon in traffic, were they aggressive and confrontational, etc.”

I don’t think your theory is possible. Once it’s determined Drejka s actions were self defense it over. Lethal force is justified in self defense so it’s impossible to be both self defense and manslaughter at the same time. The only legal question here is was Drejka in imminent threat of bodily harm and he clearly was as shown in the surprise violent attack. There isn’t even a case here as stated by the sheriff/lawyer.

I don’t see this case ever going to trial but the damage has been done to the SYG protections. I also want to add a hypothetical. Let’s say Drejka was like most CCW holders and his background showed he never wanted to get into a shooting situation. Then with every thing else exactly the same, the same BLM protesters show up, Sharpton and the other race baiters show up. Do you think Drejka would still get charged? Let’s just say I would bet my entire wallet he would and now you have a ccw holder who used his weapon in self defense and now faces 30 years in prison. Still think I’m over reacting?

292 posted on 08/14/2018 11:31:42 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: kiryandil
Drejka the Poisonous Toad needs to be dealt with in a manner that doesn't give the rest of us law-abiding gun owners a black eye. I'm glad the prosecutors didn't let this simmer any longer. There's going to be more people coming forward about this guy's little "hobby".

Your selective outrage is very interesting. Street Thug Markeis McGlockton has a record of felonious assault and drug dealing, yet to you he's an entirely innocent victim. Why isn't McGlockton a "poisonous toad" as well for assaulting Drejka, especially given his own past?

The way a reasonable person would see this is that Drejka was wrong to start the altercation (even though McGlockton's girlfriend had no business being in a handicapped space), and both McGlockton and Drejka are responsible for escalating the situation: McGlockton by physically assaulting Drejka, and Drejka by retaliating with deadly force. McGlockton is by no means innocent here, and he's just as responsible for escalating the situation as Drejka.

As I said, sometimes two wrongs make a right. Hothead Drejka will probably get locked up for manslaughter, but in the meanwhile the world is rid of a vile street thug named Markeis McGlockton. Win-win.

293 posted on 08/14/2018 11:44:48 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
I wonder if the brothers are going to bust his teeth out in prison to "play with their new toy" - or are they just going to curbstomp him on the spot?    thinking face
294 posted on 08/14/2018 12:01:40 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: precisionshootist; Justa
Let’s say Drejka was like most CCW holders and his background showed he never wanted to get into a shooting situation. Then with every thing else exactly the same, the same BLM protesters show up, Sharpton and the other race baiters show up. Do you think Drejka would still get charged? Let’s just say I would bet my entire wallet he would and now you have a ccw holder who used his weapon in self defense and now faces 30 years in prison. Still think I’m over reacting?

I'd be standing next to you screaming my lungs out, like I did when they tried to railroad George Zimmerman over "rubbing out" The Purple Drank Kid.

But in all actuality, most CCW holders don't have "invisible public spaces" that are under their personal protection...   winking face

295 posted on 08/14/2018 12:06:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: ek_hornbeck
Your selective outrage is very interesting. Street Thug Markeis McGlockton has a record of felonious assault and drug dealing, yet to you he's an entirely innocent victim. Why isn't McGlockton a "poisonous toad" as well for assaulting Drejka, especially given his own past?

I agree that Street Thug Markeis McGlockton has a record of felonious assault and drug dealing.

If somebody like the Poisonous Toad got in the face of my woman, I'd have got in his face.

The Toad was looking for exactly that.

HE FREAKING CALLED THE BOSS OF A GUY HE THREATENED TO SHOOT OVER THE SAME PARKING SPACE, AND REPEATED THE THREAT TO THE BOSS.

That's going to play well in Peoria.

The state of Florida can't have guys like that running around loose.

It's very interesting that you believe differently. It would be disturbing if you have a CCW.

296 posted on 08/14/2018 12:13:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: chris37

Yawn....


297 posted on 08/14/2018 12:28:53 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: precisionshootist

“Once it’s determined Drejka s actions were self defense it over.”

Agreed, but that may be very difficult for the defense to prove.

The State cannot prove manslaughter-1 with the video. The only thing the video shows is a very thin application of FL Self Defense law. And the long pause before the shot makes it hard to accept it as a defensive shot. Thin, but self defense.

For the State to prove the crime they charged Drejka with, manslaughter-1, they have to bring in extenuating circumstances. They have to show prior intent. They have to show a history of aggression. They have to show a history of disregard for human life when he was armed. They have to show a history and pattern of threatening and menacing behavior while he was armed consistent with the events of the shooting. IMO because the State concluded its preliminary investigation and filed charges within 10 days means they have just such evidence. What we’re seeing in the local media since the shooting supports this.

So, the state has to prove manslaughter-1 and the defense has to prove self-defense.

IMO it all boils down to what the judge allows to be considered at the preliminary hearing and at trial. He can favor prosecution, defense or both. IMO if both are presented the jury will convict.

If a person establishes and broadcasts their willingness to kill others it’s very difficult for them to claim self-defense when they do so.


298 posted on 08/14/2018 12:45:29 PM PDT by Justa
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To: kiryandil
I wonder if the brothers are going to bust his teeth out in prison to "play with their new toy" - or are they just going to curbstomp him on the spot?

You sure have a lot of love and sympathy for "the brothers," don't you? Isn't there a #BlackLivesMatter rally you could be attending?

300 posted on 08/14/2018 12:50:31 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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