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To: libstripper
Then, turning to the situation itself, it looks like the decedent gave the shooter a hard, double handed push, knocking the shooter to the ground and immediately backed off when the shooter drew his weapon.

Instead of turning towards his car and away from the shooter, to immediately drive away after pushing the shooter down, McGlockton pushed the shooter and took 3 steps toward him before the gun was pulled. I don't think McGlockton was going to put out a helping hand to get him back on his feet. Which is how the shooter will likely present his side to the story.

And I say this as someone who thinks the shooter should never have approached the woman in the handicap space.

139 posted on 07/25/2018 2:26:12 PM PDT by CaptainK ("no collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker")
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one thing weighing on my mind..it looked to me that when he pushed the shooter he blindsided him, shooter didn’t see it coming or did he?

makes a difference to me as to state of mind-if I got blindsided instead of confronted face to face I would lean more to defending myself against an aggressor who did not play fairly and may not again..

I have seen a real fight with two bikers, one got knocked down to the cement and the guy who pushed him jumped on his chest blocking the down guys arms and he proceeded to pummel the guy including grabbing the guys hair and slamming his head against the concrete.. it could have been fatal in seconds...you never want someone to be on top of you and especially pin your arms, a gun would do you no good and neither would your fists..example hockey players grabbing opponents shirt and pulling it up over their head, blocking vision and restricting arms..now they have fight straps to stop that.

this big guy could have just walked up and told the shooter to shut up face to face...tragic no matter what..


140 posted on 07/25/2018 2:42:49 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: CaptainK

one thing weighing on my mind..it looked to me that when he pushed the shooter he blindsided him, shooter didn’t see it coming or did he?

makes a difference to me as to state of mind-if I got blindsided instead of confronted face to face I would lean more to defending myself against an aggressor who did not play fairly and may not again..

I have seen a real fight with two bikers, one got knocked down to the cement and the guy who pushed him jumped on his chest blocking the down guys arms and he proceeded to pummel the guy including grabbing the guys hair and slamming his head against the concrete.. it could have been fatal in seconds...you never want someone to be on top of you and especially pin your arms, a gun would do you no good and neither would your fists..example hockey players grabbing opponents shirt and pulling it up over their head, blocking vision and restricting arms..now they have fight straps to stop that.

this big guy could have just walked up and told the shooter to shut up face to face...tragic no matter what..


141 posted on 07/25/2018 2:42:49 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: CaptainK

one thing weighing on my mind..it looked to me that when he pushed the shooter he blindsided him, shooter didn’t see it coming or did he?

makes a difference to me as to state of mind-if I got blindsided instead of confronted face to face I would lean more to defending myself against an aggressor who did not play fairly and may not again..

I have seen a real fight with two bikers, one got knocked down to the cement and the guy who pushed him jumped on his chest blocking the down guys arms and he proceeded to pummel the guy including grabbing the guys hair and slamming his head against the concrete.. it could have been fatal in seconds...you never want someone to be on top of you and especially pin your arms, a gun would do you no good and neither would your fists..example hockey players grabbing opponents shirt and pulling it up over their head, blocking vision and restricting arms..now they have fight straps to stop that.

this big guy could have just walked up and told the shooter to shut up face to face...tragic no matter what..


142 posted on 07/25/2018 2:42:49 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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