Posted on 07/21/2018 10:33:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
An argument over a handicapped parking spot at a convenience store in Florida led to a fatal shooting and the man who pulled the trigger won’t be arrested under the state’s “stand your ground” self-defense law, authorities said.
Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told reporters during a Friday press conference that Thursday’s shooting death of Markeis McGlockton, a 28-year-old father of three, is “within the bookends of stand your ground and within the bookends of force being justified,” the Tampa Bay Times reports.
“I’m not saying I agree with it, but I don’t make that call,” Gualtieri told reporters, adding that his agency will now forward the case to the State Attorney’s Office for a final decision.
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That's not what happened.
The assault suspect was not standing over the white victim. He was back up even prior to the white guy producing a weapon. After the weapon was produced, the assault suspect continued to back away from the white guy.
The video don't lie. Like the Internet, video makes a really good witness.
Somehow this just doesn't sound right to me.
Does this sound better? ...
‘Stand your ground’ law protects shooter who was violently assaulted
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That’s when McGlockton, who is black, exited the store and approached Drejka, shoving him violently to the ground with both hands, surveillance video shows.
yes the guy was shoved, but the man who shoved him clearly was no longer attacking or engaging him in an intimidating manner once he was on the ground.
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I have to disagree. He was still walking toward him until he saw the gun.
However, there was also no reason to shoot him, as long as he was retreating from the gun.
Gol Dang Mike!
“If that guy had advanced on him again - I would agree.
He drew down on him and shot him - when he was no longer an apparent threat.”
I am a strong gun advocate, but I have to agree with you. The shooter was not in fear for his life. The bully would have been arrested for assault and battery if the shooter had the responsibility to know when to use his weapon.
Sorry, I didn’t mean that in a derogatory manner. I was just trying to say, when bad things happen, it’s rarely the way we expect.
It’s near where I live, and I can’t say how I’d decide. This whole incident is ghastly. No good actors and a compilation of escalating idiocy.
Here is a clue, When you are carrying be polite and professional, don’t escalate things, shrug it off and tell the judge.
Why muss up your hair?
He probably should have backed up before the gun was pulled, but instead he charged forward and assaulted someone, thus he is now deceased.
Whatever happens or does not happen to the old man at this point doesn’t matter at all to the one who initiated the assault.
He gave up his life over a parking spot.
Pick the hill you want to die on, as they say.
I don’t see anything in the NYP article that shows Miss Jacobs is black.
Looks like a clean kill to me.
Think of it this way, when the black guy assaulted the white guy, he was only inches away from the white guy, in fact his hands came in contact with the white guy. But at the time the white guy shot, the black guy was about 8-10 feet away.
This clearly indicates the black guy was in retreat *away* from the shooter.
A gun is not a bargaining tool, nor it is a tool to scare people with.
One pulls a guns and points it at a person because why?
Look, I own more guns than a Central American militia, and I am as pro-2A as anybody on this board. I also believe in the rule of law. The most important point to be made is that this case HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STAND YOUR GROUND LAWS. SYG simply eliminated the common law requirement that, when outside the home, deadly force can only be used if you make an attempt to retreat from a confrontation. The shooter in this case was assaulted and knocked to the ground. Clearly the shooter could use deadly force if he reasonably feared for his safety. That’s the issue!! Did he fear for his safety before he pulled the trigger. Again, I am not saying up or down that he did. Just watching the video, my gut says it was not a justified shoot. However,for all I know, the shooter may have bad eyesight or had his contacts knocked out. Or perhaps he thought the deceased had pulled a gun out (his line of sight is different than the camera angle). Or perhaps Mrs. Didndunffin scared him when she ran out of the car and he thought he would be double-teamed. I would want to know the shooter’s side of why he thought he feared for his safety when the deceased was backing up. The police obviously thought the shoot was ok.
Not what happened. After the black guy took a step or two forward after knocking him to the ground, before the white guy pulled the gun, the black guy was already stepping back, as if he anticipated the white guy was about to pull a weapon which he did. Watch closely.
that’s because the BG pushed him 8’ away from where he was standing.
it’s ridiculous to listen to the people on FR defend this thug as not being a threat. He is a clear and present danger....or was, and the shooter is justified IMVHO.
If you look at about the :20 mark, just after the guy was shoved to the ground, the perp began walking towards him, and only retreated when the weapon was drawn.
However, he did back off after that.
So yeah, technically justifiable, but I don’t think the incident rises to the level of ending someone’s life.
This is exactly why I got a CHL, I aint 28 and aint gonna play footsie with four thugs on a country road.
“...this does not look justified.”
I’m not from Florida, but it doesn’t matter what it looks like to us.
It’s “THE LAW” in Florida. Don’t like it? Don’t live in Florida.
That great big brute won’t be shoving any more little old men to the pavement again.
He brought his brute strength to a gunfight.
I did. He pushed him 8-10 feet away, then walked up to him and pulled up his pants in such a manner to suggest attacks with his feet were incoming.
Then he saw that he was, in fact, about to die, then he did, in fact, die.
All he had to do in order to avoid be killed by a man with a gun was to not assault the man with the gun that killed him.
He initiated his own death sequence.
Am I supposed to take into account that right before he died, he realized oh sh!t, I’m about to die, and hold his victim accountable for his death?
I don’t think so.
If I’m on that jury, he’s walkin’.
Do not give violence if you are not prepared to receive violence.
Wrong. You’re alleging you can’t see the black guy stepping back away from the white guy?
Really?
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