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(Florida) ‘Stand your ground’ law protects shooter in deadly fight over parking space: sheriff
New York Post ^ | July 20, 2018 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 07/21/2018 10:33:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

An argument over a handicapped parking spot at a convenience store in Florida led to a fatal shooting and the man who pulled the trigger won’t be arrested under the state’s “stand your ground” self-defense law, authorities said.

Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told reporters during a Friday press conference that Thursday’s shooting death of Markeis McGlockton, a 28-year-old father of three, is “within the bookends of stand your ground and within the bookends of force being justified,” the Tampa Bay Times reports.

“I’m not saying I agree with it, but I don’t make that call,” Gualtieri told reporters, adding that his agency will now forward the case to the State Attorney’s Office for a final decision.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bs; coldblooded; coldbloodedmurder; firearms; florida; murder; rtkba; standyourground
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I still see no mention of who here was HANDICAPPED.
Was white man just a do-gooder, or did he need that space?

Both irrelevant.
If frogs had wings...

41 posted on 07/21/2018 11:29:12 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: Drew68

This puts a whole new perspective on it.

Although I throw out the “racial slurs” as both unimportant and possibly a lie (as the N word has become the only thing that one can get the chopping block for, bar none, it has been so hyped in importance).

Sounds like he might indeed be a self-appointed policeman.

Of course, I do admire some stubborn types who constantly bang the drum which might change things ultimately (as opposed to the do-nothing crowd of cowards), but they can get a bit carried away.


42 posted on 07/21/2018 11:29:40 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Navy Patriot
There isn't a stronger supporter of 2nd Amendment rights or of the right of self defense than me but that film doesn't look good at all to me.It's hard for me to imagine how the shooter was justified in doing what he did.
43 posted on 07/21/2018 11:30:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: publius911

It IS relevant.

You find out he had a right to that space and it might change the whole context.

Meanwhile, I find out he’s just a do-gooder and it’s a bit different from a handicapped person getting in an argument.


44 posted on 07/21/2018 11:31:22 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Navy Patriot

This is a very close case as to whether the shooter committed a crime. First, the “Stand Your Ground Law” stuff is a bunch of crap. SYGround simply eliminated the common law requirement that, if you are outside of your home, you make an attempt to retreat from a confrontation before using deadly force. The shooter was attacked by the deceased and knocked to the ground. Simply put, SYGround laws have nothing to do with this case. The issue in this case is whether the shooter actually feared that he would suffer serious bodily injury or death if he did not shoot. Its a close case: From the shooter’s perspective: a) he was violently attacked; b) the attacker appears to reach in his waistband; c) the girlfriend of the attacker got out of her car and appeared to go towards the shooter on the ground before he shot. I would need to know what the shooter told the cops as to why he shot. Was he disoriented from hitting the ground? Did he think the girlfriend was going to jump him while he was on the ground and that the deceased might come back? From his angle on the ground, did he fear that the deceased might have a gun or weapon? Did the deceased say something like: “I’m coming back to get you”?


45 posted on 07/21/2018 11:33:25 AM PDT by bort
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Markeis McGlockton, a 28-year-old father of three”

Make that, SIRE of three.

...

By not being married she gets more benefits, and baby daddy gets to live on the benefits, too.


46 posted on 07/21/2018 11:37:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: unlearner

Just a general thought here: If the brother man would act civilized, they would not get shot by cops or Mr. Handicap Spot guy. Just sayin’.


47 posted on 07/21/2018 11:37:23 AM PDT by bort
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To: publius911

I have lots of friends who have concealed carry licenses. In addition to having clean criminal records, their driving records are also continually evaluated. I don’t think DPS would look too kindly on a concealed carry holder who habitually parks in handicapped parking spaces if he gets ticketed. it’s not just felony convictions that DPS looks at.


48 posted on 07/21/2018 11:39:59 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Rashputin
One of the typical scenarios is a feral knocks someone to the ground, and then will starting kicking the victim as other nearby ferals join in. It seems to be some kind of innate, instinctual, behavior and there are plenty of eyewitness videos around the Internet that document this m.o.

If I were knocked to the ground by a feral, I'd be worried about any nearby "kickers" ready to join in.
 

49 posted on 07/21/2018 11:41:08 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: bort

Did the deceased say something like: “I’m coming back to get you”?

...

For me that’s the only thing that would make it justified, but the sheriff didn’t mention it.


50 posted on 07/21/2018 11:42:36 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: CTyank

I won’t make a legal call from behind my keyboard but it appears he made a couple of bad decisions.


51 posted on 07/21/2018 11:42:48 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: CTyank

If you have your gun drawn and someone advances on you, you have already lost considerable advantage, and your weapon could become their weapon in a split second.

The dead guy caused this result by assaulting someone for no reason.

I have no sympathy for him at all.


52 posted on 07/21/2018 11:44:09 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: bort

looks like Markeis was saintly :| (not)same for his bride who also has a record. But here’s an age progression of mugshots over the years

https://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=markeis&lname=McGlockton&fpartial=True


53 posted on 07/21/2018 11:46:23 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: HamiltonJay

The key point is after the gun was drawn, the dude was retreating.


54 posted on 07/21/2018 11:47:37 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

I don’t agree AT ALL. watch the video. He knocked him down and then started to pull his pants up like he was going in again, then saw the gun and hesitated. his bride got out of the car as soon as she saw him come out of the store too like they were both going to go after Drejka. The thug got what he asked for.


55 posted on 07/21/2018 11:49:49 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: CTyank
Same here. If the guy hadn't backed up and instead continued to attack the man on the ground it would be different. But it looked like he lost his temper seeing his "girlfriend" (nine years and 3 kids ought to qualify a couple as common law married) being harassed, he pushed the smaller man away (no punch), saw him fall to the ground, and then backed away.

What I was taught in a CCW course, that means no immediate lethal threat and no justification to shoot. The guy on the ground just sat up, aimed, and fired. Plain killing, fortunately caught on video so the State's Attorney will have a chance to reconsider. Should she have parked there? Of course not. Is that worth killing somebody? Not in my opinion.

56 posted on 07/21/2018 11:49:52 AM PDT by katana
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To: Navy Patriot

After the initial push that sent the man to the ground, the threat continued because the black guy took at least one more step, more like 2, towards him while he was on the ground. Watch the tape for yourself. In fact, he appears to adjust his shorts which is what he did just prior to the first assault. As if he’s going to do more.

Shooting justified.


57 posted on 07/21/2018 11:51:06 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: Navy Patriot

Shouldn’t the topic title read: Deadly Fight About Parking Space?


58 posted on 07/21/2018 11:51:13 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: spacejunkie2001

“then saw the gun and hesitated.”

Exactly. That is why the shooter will need a good lawyer.


59 posted on 07/21/2018 11:52:03 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

they’ve already ruled he acted under SYG. no lawyer needed and the he’s buffered against anyone coming after him legally.

Thank GOD for Fla gun laws. The Gunshine State.


60 posted on 07/21/2018 11:53:27 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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