Posted on 07/19/2018 6:39:32 AM PDT by Quilla
Robert Mueller’s indictment of 12 officers of the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, was purely for domestic propaganda purposes. The case was never intended to come to trial because it was presumed by Mueller that Russia would never extradite its own intelligence officers, and thus no holes would be poked in the purported evidence by defense counsel. Thus, the accusations in the indictment would be taken as dispositive by the mainstream media, and the theory that Russia was behind Donald Trump’s victory would gain support with an official imprimatur.
Mueller tried this before, with his indictment of Russian entities that supposedly supplied Facebook advertising, only to unexpectedly face a defense team hired by one of the entities, Concord Management. His response has been to delay and obfuscate, quite shamefully (dumping 4 terabytes of untranslated Russian documents in response to discovery requirements), and then pass off the prosecution to “outside prosecutors” so that his team can escape accountability for their phony indictment.
In his second round of indictments purely for show, Mueller tried to avoid the danger of a defense being mounted by making the indictments criminal and naming defendants that are real individuals who would face prison if convicted.
Of course, anybody with half a brain would see that once the United States legitimizes criminal indictments of foreign intelligence officers in this way, other nations would apply the same logic to our own intelligence operations. And the former US Ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul (an Obama appointee) tweeted:
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Replies #3, #7, and #8 are most interesting; there’s already a treaty in place to allow the 2 countries to question the other’s suspects.
The Deep state really stepped in it this time.
And note that President Trump made a distinction between his intel people and the other bunch.
None of these idiots in the media seem to realize that, from influencing elections, intercepting one another’s calls and conducting active intelligence operations - even among allies, we ALL do it and have been doing it for a long time. In the case of allies, it’s more “open” and done in a more gentlemanly fashion (officer to officer) but it’s still going on.
“””McFaul and his MSM allies are apoplectic (to the point of using the F-word in a Daily Beast headline) that president Trump has not ruled out extradition.
This places McFaul and the Trump-haters in the position of arguing that no rational leader would extradite his own country’s foreign policy and intelligence officers. This means that Meuller’s indictment was ridiculous.”””
I remain hopeful that enough people are seeing through the games being played by Mueller and Rosenstein.
Mueller expects the 12 Russian episode to go nowhere because of a lack of a extradition treaty.
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Russia could extradite its citizens even without a treaty, but Putin would be ill advised to do so without seeing the evidence first and getting assurance that any trial would not be before a jury pool that was infected br Democrats who would vote to convict anything — even a horse — associated with a Republican.
Here’s to a foreign country arresting Mueller and Rosenstein.
I’d like to see Trump turn over George Soros to either the Russians or Hungarians. Soros is the #1 meddler in elections worldwide.
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His response has been to delay and obfuscate, quite shamefully (dumping 4 terabytes of untranslated Russian documents in response to discovery requirements), and then pass off the prosecution to “outside prosecutors” so that his team can escape accountability for their phony indictment.
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How does this get entered as ‘evidence’? Let alone grounds for indictment?
Unless it’s some kangaroo court (I wouldn’t doubt), how could ANY ruling be valid?
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It goes back to 1893, when the U.S. Senate approved a controversial treaty in which both countries promised to turn over “persons guilty of attempts on the life of a ruler.” That extradition treaty is now long forgotten and the U.S. and Russia have no formal agreement.
Putin invited Mueller and his team to Russia to interrogate the 12 men. Putin reminded Mueller that the US and Russia have an extradition treaty and he could have the 12 men sent to the US to meet with Mueller and face the charges.
Is the 1893 deal still in force. US says no since the old Soviet Union is no longer. If Mueller had a case he could call Putin’s bluff and file the extradition papers to bring these 12 to the US. Mueller will not do this because what if Putin says OK. Then Mueller is up that creek. He would have to come up with proof which may be hard to do since the FBI never even looked at the Server. The we get into discovery.
The three Russian companies Mueller indicted he handed off tho a US attorney so he does not have to deal with it. Now the prosecution has to come deal with discovery and giving up all US Intel that was used. For some reason the prosecution and been asking for delays on this. I would love to see just on of the 12 show up with lawyers and watch Mueller piss in his pants when they ask for full discovery and US Intel used to indict.
Right...they WERE likely yukking it up on that team, how clever it was, until they entered the courtroom and saw that guy sitting there and thought “Who is that?”
Even if they were Russian spies and part of the government, it would be most interesting to see what they were given.
Probably the same crap we saw.
[ Mueller’s indictment of 12 Russian intel officers slams into the law of unintended consequences ]
Time to extradite associates of Bill and Hillary Clinton to Russia.
IF they don’t accidentally shoot themselves in the back of the head 8 or 9 times or drop barbells on their neck or have their houses burn down on them (Bill Clinton girlfriend).
Oh, I forgot. I’ll need a boxcar of aluminum foil wrap.
But no Boxcar Willie records.
If there is one thing that Russians know, it is that evidence can be manufactured.
Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria head of Soviet NKVD (state security) famously said: “Show me the man and I will show you the crime”
Mueller does much the same thing by questioning someone until he catches them in an unintentional lie and then he has them on a manufactured perjury charge.
You may not be guilty of what I accused you of, but dam it you are going to jail anyway!
BUT OF COURSE he is a stable genius!
Exactly. Dan Bongino has been on top of this from day one about the first paragraph in the FISA investigation report...what does it say?
Nobody has seen it. That is where the statement of the crime being investigated is, and WHAT EVIDENCE IS AVAILABLE TO JUSTIFY THE INVESTIGATION.
That is the key to this whole debacle, and is exactly why they won’t release it.
When we see it, that is when it is going to well and finally blow up in their faces.
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Darn tootin !