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Yes, I'm well aware of the recent apostate comments of the high-level leadership of the SBC, hence my "all their faults" remark. I do think the grassroots will have to deal with the infiltration at the top eventually, as well as the increasingly apostate congregations, as they did with the SWBTS corruption several decades ago. If they don't, the denomination is sunk and quickly. (I have a vested interest in this group as my father was a graduate of that seminary and have been immersed in that culture since my earliest childhood.)

I've been repeatedly appalled by Russell Moore and, less frequently, by Al Mohler's comments. I think a very significant capitulation was the agreed meeting by the SBC president several years ago with a group of radical homosexual activists during the convention in Arizona. Although there was no purported capitulation on doctrine, there was a very softened tone of conciliation to the discussion, and the fact that the meeting happened at all, knowing that the sodomites wouldn't budge, was deemed a very great victory for the homosexual side. They "won" a place at the table, and that was their only goal.

I agree. The grassroots is going to have to deal with them. I told a friend on FB, when she asked what I thought the eventual outcome would be, that the SBC was going to go down the road of the Presbyterians, not the Methodists. There is a distinctive split in the Presbyterians. One camp has capitulated and one has remained conservative. I think this is where the SBC is headed...just much more rapidly. So many in the local churches have NO idea who Moore is, much less what he is doing...or Stetzer...or what they tweet and who they "hang with"...and that is a failure of their pastors.

The fact they elected JD Greear by 68%, who in one of his latest books gave some props to Rob Bell (Love wins, no hell), and that he was pretty much hand picked by these guys shows that most pastors are asleep at the wheel...and the conservative resurgence is flailing.

And of course, I know Andy Stanly isn't technically pastoring an SBC church, but he is the son of one of the most famous SBC pastors...and he wants to unhitch us from the Old Testament and doesn't care if someone discounts the creation story or the flood. And of course, as you listen to the entire sermon series, Aftermath, you realize where he is headed: Normalization of homosexuality.

It's all very tragic. I grew up in the SBC...and was SBC for 35 years...was an SBC pastor for 22. I tried to reform from within for 22 years. I almost bled out too many times...and that's why we left. :-(