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Exactly where did I say that NATO was preventing that (i.e. takeover by Islam)?

You said, and I quote, "The U.S. still has a role to play in any alliance to the extent that we have an interest in a free Europe (i.e. one not completely taken over by Islam)."

If NATO is not furthering that goal then what role to we play by remaining in it? And if Europe is not interested in avoiding a Muslim takeover then what can we do to prevent it?

Are you following our conversation (mine and yours) on this thread?

In your post 6 above to me:

You quoted me as saying: Trump probably won't destroy NATO, but he will surely revise it into something useful.
Then you asked: Which would be what exactly?

I responded to that question with this comment:

How about a European alliance that, for the most part, pays its own way and clearly identifies the enemy that has already conducted an invasion of almost every nook and cranny of Europe except for Hungary and Austria. After clearly identifying that enemy, how about developing and implementing a plan of action (with the necessary military force) capable achieving victory over (i.e. destroying) that enemy not just on home soil but back to the source. [NOTE added now by me: This is NOT NATO, BUT A REVISED NATO...ONE FOCUSED ON THE ACTUAL GOAL].

Then in you last comment to me, you completely ignore my previous comment that NATO must be revised to actually focus on the enemy (Islam) and asked...

You asked: If NATO is not furthering that goal then what role to we play by remaining in it?

If you don't mind, I will wait until you and I can have a logical discussion of the issue rather than get involved in circular and obtuse discussion with you.

And if Europe is not interested in avoiding a Muslim takeover then what can we do to prevent it?

If there is a muslim takeover of Europe, there will be a Christian and Jewish holocaust.

Do you not think that is worth preventing.

Now as to your question--a good question--that (I paraphrase) "if Europe doesn't care enough to defend itself what can we do to prevent it?"...let me say that I have spent much time thinking about this and simply am not sure what the answer is.

Surely we have to conduct a blunt and direct foreign policy with Europe as I believe Trump is now trying to do.

One in which the U.S. will not be enabling Europe by paying to support a feckless NATO unless NATO changes to actually identify and build an force to fight Islam.

That's a start.

But yes, there has to be a sea change in both NATO and European members (Turkey should be kicked out immediately as part of the change of NATO).