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To: GnuThere
What is your solution?

Seriously?
You could throw a stone at a board while blindfolded and find a better solution.

For one, moral education. For another, bring them into the modern world and require they participate in a viable economy. Why couldn't they develop a real tourist industry by making their country more attractive to the world; establish the rule of law, create a safe environment?

The soft tyranny of lowered expectations becomes liberals, not those who claim to be Conservative. Decimating them through birth control is naked racism and genocide.

78 posted on 07/10/2018 5:13:05 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: stormhill

“Decimating them through birth control is naked racism and genocide. “

Besides, reducing the population by 10% wouldn’t really help.


81 posted on 07/10/2018 5:23:56 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: stormhill

Have you been there? I have. There are people who are trying all of that. Go there and see how all your idealistic plans go over.


92 posted on 07/10/2018 5:54:10 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: stormhill
For one, moral education. For another, bring them into the modern world and require they participate in a viable economy. Why couldn't they develop a real tourist industry by making their country more attractive to the world; establish the rule of law, create a safe environment?

--sigh--

So, more of the "White Man's Burden" eh? Here's Kippling's famous poem, written in 1899, in response to the Spanish-American War.

“The White Man’s Burden: The United States and The Philippine Islands.”

Take up the White Man’s burden—

Send forth the best ye breed—

Go send your sons to exile

To serve your captives' need

To wait in heavy harness

On fluttered folk and wild—

Your new-caught, sullen peoples,

Half devil and half child

Take up the White Man’s burden

In patience to abide

To veil the threat of terror

And check the show of pride;

By open speech and simple

An hundred times made plain

To seek another’s profit

And work another’s gain

Take up the White Man’s burden—

And reap his old reward:

The blame of those ye better

The hate of those ye guard—

The cry of hosts ye humour

(Ah slowly) to the light:

"Why brought ye us from bondage,

“Our loved Egyptian night?”

Take up the White Man’s burden-

Have done with childish days-

The lightly proffered laurel,

The easy, ungrudged praise.

Comes now, to search your manhood

Through all the thankless years,

Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom,

The judgment of your peers!

It's amazing to me that a big slice of the Conservative movement is still stuck on previously failed solutions with regards to nation building.

It doesn't work in the 3rd world, and it won't work in the 3rd world.

Nothing really has changed since Kippling's time except now, if one is willing to educate oneself, we know better.

Leaving aside the long history of failed attempts to "help" the 3rd world, from colonialism, to de-colonialism, to neo-colonialism, to the anti-apartheid movement, to Bob Geldorf, we now, thanks to science, know a lot more about people than we used to.

We know that race is not a "social construct" as we were taught as kids, thanks to the fake-science of the Frankfurt School. (And we know about the Frankfort School too, hopefully). We know race is a matter of DNA, and for $49 you can send q-tip off and find out about yours. We know that there is a significant variation from group-to-group, but also that there are group traits, group averages, group diseases, etc.

The nature/nurture debate has been settled, and nature won.

Given this the colonial program might still b the most practical for a lot of places, but of course, it led to many problems too. Best to just separate and leave them alone.

If this seems odd or cruel I suggest reading this popular science book of a few years ago. It's not by some neo-Nazi, the author is a quite respectable fellow and the book was a New York Times bestseller. His tone is almost apologetic, for having to break so many cherished fairy tales, but broken they must be.

And, if all that fails, consider the tone of the article and the attitude of the people we help. Sure their is the occassional (very occassional) deserving individual who has the drive and ability to move above their background and surroundings. But for every one of them there is a group of guys like this thanking your for your attempts at "moral education":


94 posted on 07/10/2018 6:24:17 PM PDT by Jack Black
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