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As Haiti Burns, Never Forget: White People Did That
The Root ^ | July 9, 2018 | Michael Harriot

Posted on 07/10/2018 3:50:58 PM PDT by Trump20162020

On Saturday, the U.S. Embassy in Haiti warned American citizens, volunteers and missionaries in Haiti to stay in place and hunker down after angry demonstrators attempted to get past a barricade and security guards at a Port-au-Prince hotel.

CNN reports that American Airlines, JetBlue and the Spirit Airlines (whose official slogan is: “We’re like a Greyhound bus with wings”) canceled all flights to Haiti following unrest in the country related to rising fuel prices, corruption and widespread poverty.

When comparing them side-by-side, the story of the American Revolution ain’t got shit on the history of Haiti. For black people, Haiti represents the most beautiful story of strength, resistance and freedom that has ever been told. It is the story of a people who thrust off the chains of bondage and took their liberty from the hands of their oppressors.

For others, Haiti is a tragedy. There are some, whose names do not deserve mention, who even refer to it as a “shithole country.” But when discussing anything having to do with the country of Haiti, we should never forget that every bit of struggle in Haiti is related to the legacy of slavery, capitalism and American hypocrisy.

As unrest envelops Haiti once again, it is important for us to remember that Haiti suffers from a worldwide collusion between America and European countries intent on making the tropical paradise suffer. To blame Haiti’s problems on white people is not a harebrained hypothesis. It is an unbelievably treacherous fact that it often sounds like a kooky conspiracy theory.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: americanairlines; billclinton; blackkk; chelseaclinton; clintonfoundation; grifters; haiti; haitiburns; hillaryclinton; hispaniola; jetblue; michaelharriot; papadoc; shithole; shthole; shythole; spiritairlines; theroot; usembassy; whitepeople
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To: DoodleDawg

“Or maybe because it never happened?”

Ironic that a poster would come on a thread illustrating the insanity of blaming others for the calamities your own people bought on themselves, and repeating the same sort of projection, isn’t it?


181 posted on 07/11/2018 7:43:01 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DoodleDawg
If it's propaganda then a lot of Southerners fell for it.

And a lot of them didn't.

http://www.civilwarcauses.org/rhett.htm

182 posted on 07/12/2018 8:53:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bull Snipe
you are entitled to your opinion.

And you are entitled to believe in those things that don't make actual sense in the real world.

The money evidence would be causing grave doubts for me were I in your shoes. It doesn't look good at all.

183 posted on 07/12/2018 8:56:41 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: stormhill; Mrs. Don-o
This wins the prize for the most stupid comment on this thread; implement the Margaret Sanger solution: eugenic genocide.

You don't think Haitian women should be allowed birth control?

184 posted on 07/12/2018 9:16:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Haiti is a further example of how any thing bad in the world can ultimately be traced back to the French.


185 posted on 07/12/2018 9:18:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dsc

But the US loved Papa Doc, because he pretended to be “Anti-Communist”.


186 posted on 07/12/2018 9:20:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NorthstarMom
We chose Christianity, they chose voodoo.



"Now go do....that voodoo.....that you do.....so well!"

187 posted on 07/12/2018 9:22:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: stormhill
Let Trump build a wall on our border with the left-over concrete from the border with Mexico.

Better make it a tall wall.


188 posted on 07/12/2018 9:29:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.)
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To: PapaBear3625; stormhill
Women in conditions of dire poverty very much need to control their procreative power, so as to avoid untimely pregnancy, and achieve healthy pregnancy whenever they want.

But poor women are particularly at risk for harm by contraception:

Fortunately there is one such method available:modern fertility-awareness methods (NFP).

Doesn't need hormonal injections/implants, will not boost the prevalence of strokes and hormone-sensitive cancers, enhances spousal communication and cooperation.

Doesn't even require calendars and BBT thermometers. The simplest methods have been used by hundreds of thousands of women in Haiti-like conditions.

Fertility choices without contraception. That's the preferred family plkanning method in developing copuntries (LINK)

189 posted on 07/12/2018 10:00:01 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Rights and Dignity.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
And a lot of them didn't.

Well, one anyway. And yet when the state of South Carolina issued their formal declaration of their reasons for secession slave, slaves or slavery is mentioned 18 times; tax is mentioned once, and tariffs not at all. I guess they discarded that crank Rhett's opinions as not being accurate?

Link

190 posted on 07/12/2018 10:31:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dfwgator

“But the US loved Papa Doc, because he pretended to be “Anti-Communist”.”

Well, given that the commies would have deposed and killed him, I suspect that he was anti-Communist.


191 posted on 07/12/2018 10:34:59 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Their focus seemed to be on how the Northern states were refusing to abide by the Constitutional agreement, and how they have deliberately thrown up many roadblocks to what had been up to then normal recognition of the immunities and privileges of the various states.

In other words, many of the Northern states were attempting to change the constitution without going through the actual amendment process.

192 posted on 07/12/2018 10:55:51 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Fortunately there is one such method available:modern fertility-awareness methods (NFP).

NFP (Natural Family Planning), which consists of not having sex during the woman's most fertile period, is most suited for couples where both partners can exercise self-discipline and engage in long-term planning. Does that characterize the majority of the population of Haiti?

193 posted on 07/12/2018 11:03:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Their focus seemed to be on how the Northern states were refusing to abide by the Constitutional agreement, and how they have deliberately thrown up many roadblocks to what had been up to then normal recognition of the immunities and privileges of the various states.

Their focus is on slavery, one could say they were obsessed with it, and potential impacts to that.

And as a side note, your man Rhett was threatening secession in 1856 if Fremont had won. And the primary benefit, as Rhett saw it, had nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with a resumption in the slave trade. Secession would, as Rhett saw it, "make Territories, now free, slave Territories, and to acquire new territory into which to extend slavery – such as Cuba, North Eastern Mexico, &c – but we would re-open the African slave trade that every white man might have a chance to make himself owner of one or more negroes, and go with them and his household goods wherever opportunity beckoned enterprise.”

Link

194 posted on 07/12/2018 11:05:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Their focus is on slavery, one could say they were obsessed with it, and potential impacts to that.

People are obsessed with their cash cow. Philosophers have long noted that people's opposition to or favoring of something depends on who's ox is getting gored.

but we would re-open the African slave trade that every white man might have a chance to make himself owner of one or more negroes, and go with them and his household goods wherever opportunity beckoned enterprise.”

Rhett has seemingly swallowed the whole "slavery is moral" thing hook line and sinker. A lot of people in the South at that time did. They were wrong, but such was the culture in which they emerged.

It doesn't make his economic arguments invalid though.

195 posted on 07/12/2018 11:17:24 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: PapaBear3625
NFP (Natural Family Planning), which consists of not having sex during the woman's most fertile period, is most suited for couples where both partners can exercise self-discipline and engage in long-term planning. Does that characterize the majority of the population of Haiti?

I believe that the name which practitioners of NFP in Haiti will be called is "Parents."

I very much doubt that Haitians can exhibit self control when it comes to sex. The fact that there are nine million of them on that tiny Island argues against it.

196 posted on 07/12/2018 11:19:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
People are obsessed with their cash cow.

Which in the South was slavery.

Rhett has seemingly swallowed the whole "slavery is moral" thing hook line and sinker. A lot of people in the South at that time did. They were wrong, but such was the culture in which they emerged.

Wrong by our standards now, and wrong by the standards of some at the time. But it's an indication of just how far Rhett and the vast majority of Southerners of the period would go to protect their institution from political interference from others.

It doesn't make his economic arguments invalid though.

Mildly suspect, given his history. But again, he mentions taxes 23 times and slaves/slavery/slaveholding 31 times, including in the title. His issue with taxation was obviously secondary to his concerns for slavery.

197 posted on 07/12/2018 12:27:50 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Which in the South was slavery.

Really? Wow! I had no idea. :)

Wrong by our standards now, and wrong by the standards of some at the time. But it's an indication of just how far Rhett and the vast majority of Southerners of the period would go to protect their institution from political interference from others.

I have lived long enough to realize many people see just what they want to see. I've also noticed that if something benefits some particular group, they tend to see it as right and proper, and it's not a matter of them lying to themselves. They actually come to believe that the thing benefiting them is just and proper.

Cognitive dissonance is apparently a quite common human trait. Note how Jews support the political party that most often advocates anti-semitism. Note how homosexuals support liberal policies that will eventually result in Muslims cutting off their heads.

People believe those things that they perceive as in their best interest, and they believe them fully. They don't allow the slightest hint of doubt to creep into their self-righteousness.

Such were the unapologetic slave owners on the 19th century South. To believe they were immoral people was simply unthinkable to them.

198 posted on 07/12/2018 12:38:23 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: PapaBear3625
Studies comparing theoretical effectiveness with user-effectiveness show that any method --- NFP, condoms, other barriers, spermicides, etc. ---work best the more highly motivated the user is. Couples use NFP very consistently and effectively when they have a serious economic or health-related or other personally compelling reason for doing so.

Similarly, higher motivation is associated with consistent compliance for the contraceptive methods (rubbers, foams). Without conscientious use, all of these methods fail.

At the extreme end, if a woman is so powerless in the relationship that she can't get her husband to delay intercourse for a couple of days, she doesn't have the negotiating power to insist on a condom, either. Experience shows that NFP tends to increase women's sexual authority and the respect she gets from her husband. It builds their sense of shared responsibility in their relationship.

Contraceptives do the opposite. They obliterate mutuality. They erase the man's sense of responsibility.

199 posted on 07/12/2018 12:43:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: PapaBear3625

Plus, if the couple lack the mutual cooperation, self-discipline, and long-term planning to even want (let alone achieve) control over their fertility, then all that’s left is essentially a veterinary approach: coercive spaying/neutering or the equivalent.

This erases the central point, which is that we’re going for *human* well-being. If we see the very poor as both useless and feckless Untermenschen, Sanger and Hitler had the correct approach: segregate and sterilize. But I believe neither you nor I would go there. I think we’re both aiming at human dignity and well-being, not the Final Solution.


200 posted on 07/12/2018 2:21:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." - Billie Holliday)
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