Posted on 07/10/2018 3:50:58 PM PDT by Trump20162020
On Saturday, the U.S. Embassy in Haiti warned American citizens, volunteers and missionaries in Haiti to stay in place and hunker down after angry demonstrators attempted to get past a barricade and security guards at a Port-au-Prince hotel.
CNN reports that American Airlines, JetBlue and the Spirit Airlines (whose official slogan is: “We’re like a Greyhound bus with wings”) canceled all flights to Haiti following unrest in the country related to rising fuel prices, corruption and widespread poverty.
When comparing them side-by-side, the story of the American Revolution ain’t got shit on the history of Haiti. For black people, Haiti represents the most beautiful story of strength, resistance and freedom that has ever been told. It is the story of a people who thrust off the chains of bondage and took their liberty from the hands of their oppressors.
For others, Haiti is a tragedy. There are some, whose names do not deserve mention, who even refer to it as a “shithole country.” But when discussing anything having to do with the country of Haiti, we should never forget that every bit of struggle in Haiti is related to the legacy of slavery, capitalism and American hypocrisy.
As unrest envelops Haiti once again, it is important for us to remember that Haiti suffers from a worldwide collusion between America and European countries intent on making the tropical paradise suffer. To blame Haiti’s problems on white people is not a harebrained hypothesis. It is an unbelievably treacherous fact that it often sounds like a kooky conspiracy theory.
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sounds like genocide and war crimes to me
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sounds like the fictitious hatemonger in Kurt Voneggut’s Mother Night who proclaims himself to be the last free American (and who’s infamy as a WWII nazi propaganda broadcasts inspires ‘the black fuhrer of harlem’)
The political class, or any subsequent political class, could have simply repudiated the payments if they didn't need trade with whitey. By about 1850 or so, when the genocidal class had passed into history, they might have even gotten away with it had they developed any moral standing or even shown a little remorse for the foul murderous deed they had done.
The U.S. backed the French for two reasons-- (a)timing, a mere 21 years after the end of the American Revolution and a year after the sale of Louisiana Territory (a reservoir of goodwill toward France) and (b)a sense of morality that there should be consequences for the fanatical genocidal conduct of the independence leaders.
By the way, the payments were calculated based on "ability to pay" calculated from the revenue generated from Haiti when it was still a French colony. They got extended because the Haitians couldn't run their country with the same ability as did the French.
We managed not to take revenge against our political opponents at the end of our revolution, even though it cost the lives of 250,000 or so soldiers and civilians and left our country bankrupt. Most Tories left our country of their own volition or enticement of things like land grants in Canada.
You want to freak out a Haitian immigrant in South Florida, just say the words Tonton Macoutes. They’re not just secret police they’re very occult. It’s not BS to say the entire country is too.
You want to freak out a Dominican, just tell them they’re going to the other side of Hispaniola which is Haiti, or even to the border between the two countries.
That tells you all you need to know about Haiti.
Americans are pouring huge amounts of money into that $hithole. A waste of money. Infinite numbers of well meaning doctors and aid workers go there to help. You can’t help. It’s beyond help. Haiti, Zimbabwe and Venezuela have to be allowed to feel the full effect of their choices. Only then will they be able to see the way out.
The DR guards that border with an iron hand.
The only time Haiti functioned as a viable state was between 1915 and 1934, when the US Marines occupied and ran the country. Other than that, it’s chaos.
The political class, or any subsequent political class, could have simply repudiated the payments if they didn't need trade with whitey. By about 1850 or so, when the genocidal class had passed into history, they might have even gotten away with it ...
I think France was holding a little more over their heads than trade. After all, what good is trade if most of the proceeds must be paid away? I think France made it clear that failure to pay would result in a visit from their military.
Another thing to blame on the worst President we ever had, Woodrow Wilson.
I don’t know... if you follow the link to Forbes, most of the same points are in an article there by a Dan Sperling. It’s just an opinion piece, but Forbes isn’t a hotbed of radicalism.
Some of it got in to those papers.
And more importantly, he sees that history doesn't get written when it makes him look bad.
Not going to happen because no one who cares enough about the misery that is Haiti would have the balls to do it.
A majority of people labor under the misconception that the purpose of the war was to end slavery. It wasn't. That "purpose" didn't get added to the war until a year and a half into it. For the first year and a half the intent was to keep slavery just as it was.
Slavery would have eventually attritted away, but it would have taken at least another 20 years, and possibly 80 more years.
It would have still been a better solution to let it die naturally than kill so many people and destroy so many other people's lives.
After 1815, France was a conquered nation. The victors made sure of that. I am not sure France was even capable of mounting a punitive expedition to Haiti even if they had the will to do so. It was 1862, when we were preoccupied with our own civil war, before they even tried anything close . . . the very short lived occupation of Mexico.
Well, I’ll take your word for it. You’re clearly more of a historian than I am.
Not necessarily true in the case of our Civil War. If you take a look at written CW histories from the 1870s through the 1950s, a majority are written by Southern authors. They write extensively of the “Lost Cause” view of the CW. It is not until around the time of the CW Centennial that more Northern born authors start to come forward with a substantial different view of those events.
Exactly. Wonder if we’ll find out what happened in Haiti?
How could our young country, with limited assets, send an army over to Africa to keep the tribes from fighting and stop them from imprisoning and selling their brethren to slave traders?
Americans should not have gone to Africa and bought slaves.
Africans never should have been brought to America as slaves.
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